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Biggest WTF news I've read today. I'm not a web dev so this doesn't affect me, but this is bizarre.

We get a closer first look at what's around the corner for AI coding tools, and make Bun better for it

This incredibly popular tool is now going to merge with an AI company and shift gears to be turned into some forced AI hype machine. Yipee! Exactly what all the devs were hoping for! /s

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[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

> Uses JavaScript in 2025.

> Complains about enshittification.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago

JavaScript was built for the web. That's fine. It's corporations that took it out of its comfort zone even when better alternatives emerged.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

Eh, it’s fine. It has some bad choices baked into it, but what language doesn’t? And JS in 2025 is miles better than JS in 2005.

I wouldn’t choose it for every project, but it’s a reasonable choice in many cases.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fuck else am I supposed to make websites with, rust compiled to WASM?

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s my opinion that the modern web is massively enshittified, and was so long before that term came into play.

Too much focus on flashy (and often obstructive) presentation, constant reinvention of the wheel, and no regard for the actual information being delivered.

I mean, you mention “semantic markup” to your average web developer and they just stare at you blankly. They’re like the seagulls from Finding Nemo: DIV? DIV! DIV!

Useful information structures? Meaningful metadata? Consistent patterns? Forget about it.

HTML and JavaScript are part of the problem. They provide too much freedom and not nearly enough structure or guidance.

And even if you put all that aside, JavaScript is an abomination that is entirely unsuited to the purpose it’s being used for. Ask any JS developer. Or look at how many ridiculous frameworks have been slapped over the top of it in a vain attempt to address its inadequacies.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Ok that’s great but I need to eat

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey! Sometimes it mostly works, and that's all I can reasonably ask for anymore.

[–] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is only used because it is the only available option on web. Don't bitch me about webassembly when it is missing half of the api and doubles up page load time.

[–] aichan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WASM is that much slower? I get that needing a f*** Js wrapper to be able to use the DOM cannot be good, but is there really that much of a difference?