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    [–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    For most ”laymen” Wayland works just fine. I prefer Wayland because it has proper support for fractional scaling, which is a must for monitors with higher resolution than 1080p.

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    A must...?

    I had two monitors at 1600x2560 and one at [(various resolutions, usually at)] 800x1280... for near a decade, with no wayland. What's this "must" and "proper support for fractional scaling" I didnt have and thus was doing it wrong? :3

    [–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago

    Every time I’ve tried ”fractional scaling” on X11 it’s just a blurry mess. Like as if it renders at a lower resolution and then scales it up by 125%. I don’t want all my text and icons to be tiny without having to configure every single application I’m using (with mixed results).

    With Wayland it’s sharp even with 125% scaling.

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I prefer Wayland because I use a 2-in-1 ThinkPad. No thanks X11, I don't want a click on touch mouse pointer.

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    ???

    You cant configure your way around that?

    Or maybe I'm completely misunderstanding what you mean by "click on touch mouse pointer".

    I'm not understanding why X11's not wanted with a thinkpad. I've had various thinkpads (penabled, multi-touch, and no-touchscreen), since (iirc) 2007ish, and had no troubles.

    What's wayland doing for you? What's the problem with X11?

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I only have experience with Plasma, but on X11 when I tap on the screen, it emulates a mouse click where I tap. And it also does when I swipe my finger, like holding a clicked mouse and moving the pointer. And gestures don't work, though I think that one can be fixed.

    Wayland just works. When I want to select text, press and hold like on a phone. When scrolling something, I just swipe it like on a phone (except for LibreOffice, that one is an absolute mess on Wayland). Especially nice with drawing programs. Stylus acts just like what I described with finger on X11 - it controls mouse pointer.
    In effect this means that with fingers I can move around and zoom, while with stylus I can draw or select text.

    And then GTK 4.20 breaks Rnote and I can only use it via Xwayland...

    Anyway, for a touchscreen device, I had more luck with Wayland.

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 day ago

    Interesting. Thanks.

    I just tried that on my multitouch X220T, and at first, it worked fine, no click, able to move cursor... but then somehow I lost the knack...

    I guess I don't use my touchscreens enough for it to matter to me.

    When drawing, I typically pull out my proper wacom. Otherwise it's nearly all trackpoint or mouse.