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So this is where the Amarican people no longer accept this president and rovolt in an unprecedented rage, amiright?
Like, finally take an example of the French and other counties and finally unite in a massive violent protest, right?
Please learn from history, it's the only way.
We're patiently waiting and watch eagerly from the sideline here in Europe, come on, act!
I've been in the US two months ago, in a very Democratic city, socialising with only very anti-Trump people. Not a single one cared what happened outside US borders. They were upset about the inflation, cost of living, loss of privacy and civil liberties, etc. There may be some who do care about the US foreign policy, but unless thousands of Americans start returning in body bags, there won't be enough critical mass to stage any revolt or even protests worthy of Trump's attention.
I've lived in the US my entire life. I wish I could tell you your wrong.
I can't.
Some of my earliest memories revolve around watching the evening news, listening to them say that "X amount of American lives were lost" and wondering why "American" lives were substantially different or worthy of note. A life lost is a life lost. And that's a tragedy no matter how you slice it. Where that life started or where it lived has no bearing whatsoever on it's value.
At least... that's what I believe. The current state of things has me thinking I might be in the minority on that one.
As to revolution, protest, anything that could even prove an inconvenience to the status quo... I'll believe it when I see it. Not to make excuses, but I think forces in the American culture have been working to defang popular protest since at least the civil rights movement, or perhaps even earlier. Even if it's demostriably wrong... I can't begin to tell you how demoralized I feel. My government just... went and did this. It's illegal. The very shape of our government is supposed to prevent this kind of thing from happening. And yet... here we are. One illegal invasion and (apparently) kidnapping of a sovereign head of state later.
...I wish it were otherwise, but it feels like there's very little that can be done about it. Americans just... don't seem equal to the task of holding their government to account. The one thing we are supposed to be good at.
I can't even begin to tell you how many outrages there were up to this point. Too many. Far too many for concence to allow. This... feels different. Is different. Has to be different, then the way we've been allowing things to ride.
But... I've been disappointed before. I'm certain I'll be disappointed again. I hope this will be different, but...
...I can point to plenty of times it should have been different before. Times that would have prevented this from happening. It's... hard to maintain hope in the face of that.
I mean, philosophically all lives are equal.
But you value people you love, your family (I assume) more than your neighbors. And you care about what happens in your town more than in another city in your country, and you care more about your country than others...
USA had a pretty bad plane crash a couple months ago in Louisville; about a dozen people died. I care, it was a tragedy, but I guarantee you that the people in Louisville care a lot more than I do.
And it's the same reason a nation will care more about its citizens vs the citizens of other nations. Kind of obtuse to pretend that's not how people work, no?
That's fair, I was quite tired when I wrote what I wrote so let me expand on that a little bit.
That is of course true in most situations. I should have clarified this more but primarily when I said "I grew up watching the evening news" I was talking about war on terror coverage.
I'm not pretending that's not how people work, it absolutely is and that's the reason this was exploited. But... there's this kind of... preformative agony to the whole ordeal that, speaking as an American, does feel uniquely American.
Empathizing with the death of people you're close with is natural. But when, as in Iraq or Afghanistan, they are active participants in why people are dying, and then they're deaths are used to justify sending more people over there to kill and be killed...
...It kinda just soured me on the whole affair to be honest. And, given the events of last night? It's something I could easily see happening again. We seem to have dusted off everything else from the Iraq playbook, why not that too?
Anyways, we're not disagreeing. There was just more to my point that didn't quite make it into my post.
I'm sorry but I'm just going to disagree with you. As a Misanthropic Anti-Natalist, I proudly hate all humans. If a plane crashes in my state I'm more happy than if it happened in a different state.
I want the USA to burn and fall. I want our fearless leader to die slowly in agony as someone literally eats him in front of him, slowly cutting off parts and cooking it right there in front of our demented orange demon. I will be happy when all humans are extinct.
Giving this planet back to the animals and plants is the only thing I dream of. I wish there was a button to release the biophage and infect the entire Human population with a designer-plague that kills us all and leaves the animals and plants alone.
So no, not everyone gives a fuck whether people dying locally or across the planet makes any difference! Humans are nightmare creatures. Literal monsters!
Cool cool get some therapy bud
Hey! Fuck you too mate!
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Maybe he wants to describe the reader’s wrong doings?
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that happened during the invasion of Iraq, and nothing happened anyway… most Muricans are just chicken hawks
Unfortunately that' just human nature, tribalism, nature is cruel and the life that evolved out of it is the product of this cruelty
There are many social circles. The most immediate is Family, then extended relatives, close friends, then neighbors, then your village/towm/city, then region, then nation, then its the planet.
Humans aren't really capable of really caring about thing happeneing far away.
This isn't unique to the US. I think every country is like that, especially those struggling.
It's not like people consciously choose to be evil, this is just biology, they can't help it.
When your family is struggling, its hard to care about neighors, and especially harder to care about someone in another town/city.
Nationalism just extend the circle a bit, people care about their own country's suffering more than others. Don't even have the time to catch a break and think when your role in this system is just a wage slave.
People become more tribal under scarcity conditions and the scarcity is largely artificial.
This is a lie. This reeks of someone looking to claim they're the only person who cares about Gaza
well given how many of y’all like to throw "just another distraction from the epstein files!" at everything, i’m enclined to believe it
Right because if someone says that then that means they themselves also value nothing outside the us. It DEFINITELY doesn't indicate what they think Trump's thought process is.
What do you mean? I don't understand your sentence.
It may be time for the rest of the world to stop waiting patiently for Americans to mobilize. When non-US states commit atrocities, the civilized world does sanctions to erode public support for the regime. It's time for sanctions on the US. Russia can't be the only nation that condemns us.
Like most countries in all of history with remotely any amount of power. The avg citizen doesn't give a fuck about foreign policy.
If your country isn't militaristically weak or at risk and your people are't coming home in body bags. You will be hard pressed to find a country with a population that doesn't care about it self first and foremost with foreign policy a distant thought.
They want that. It's a sad truth, but we need to accept it. America is lost, the people of america are lost. This is a failed state. And globally, the quicker this state goes down, the better the world becomes for everyone else.
no, they'll keep on waiting and seeing… turns out the home of the brave was just full of feckless sheep
US is far to spread out, and not enough people will care because Mudaro wasn't a very good guy and that's about as far as nearly half the US will look.
They might not care for Maduro that much
The fact that Maduro got captured so quickly will increase his support if anything.
Fat complacent Americans aren’t going to do anything. They love the military industrial complex including so-called “left” Americans.
... Why? America voted this, 2/3 Americans either actively or passively support a pedo king who kidnaps other countries leaders