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This made me physically ill watching. This also proves 2 things.
First, don't let these fuckers on your property without a signed warrant. They can't do anything if you stand your ground like these people.
2nd, the police will not protect you. Even the cops on the phone told them just hand her over.
Stand your ground, ask for a signed warrant and don't listen to their fake ass threats of harboring.
This is the best we have for now, but a month ago they weren't shooting people in the streets, I think they're up to 5 now. I suspect they'll be busting doors in before midterms hit.
They are busting doors in now.
I actually thought the cops were going to arrive to maybe mediate until a warrant was available, just to help de-escalate.
The cops were never not going to side with ICE though.
Here's another angle. If what they were doing was legal and by the books, they would already have a judicial signed warrant. All this bullshit they scream about getting the warrant...or it's on the way, is complete bullshit. There is no judicial warrant, and there will not be a judicial warrant issued to enter your property because almost every one of these people they are after are not committing a crime that justifies an instant bench warrant.
I don't think that's true? They could have a judicial warrant for her arrest, but I don't think that includes any ability to enter her residence?
That would need to be a 2nd warrant wouldn't it?
To my knowledge, a signed judicial warrant does grant them access to enter their property, but I don't know if that means all property or just the home of who is getting served the warrant.
If anything, I would think then this family could have been legally charged with harboring a fugitive, but I'm unsure if that gives authorities the right to bust down any door to get to them.
From what i understand the warrant has to be specific. It would need their address.
If it was the home address of the target, but not the address of the person's house they ran into, i think it's useless, other than to at least prove to the person there is a legitimate warrant out for them, which could change their behaviour.
Like if someone had a judicial warrant for them, but not with my address on it, I'd probably act differently than if they didn't have one at all.
But wouldn't the "easy" thing in that case be to just fuck off, go to her house in the middle of the night, and arrest her there with the warrent, instead of wasting time like this?
I mean, if they have a warrent they're bound to know who she is, and I doubt this door dasher is some criminal mastermind who is going to fake their death and disappear completely during the next few hours.
No, they still can. It's not legal (for whatever that's worth these days), but they can absolutely just bust down your door anyway. We need to start treating them like they lawless criminals they are.
The system will not save you, at least not immediately. You might get let go later, after they've sufficiently punished your resistance, but that's it.
How the hell do you even verify a warrant? I still wouldn't consent to a search. I wouldn't resist, sure, but I ain't opening the door.
This slide presentation from ACLU Minnesota covers that, as well as other essential know-your-rights information. Share it around with those who may need it.
https://www.aclu-mn.org/app/uploads/2017/03/ice_kyr_master_updated_4.15.pdf
Short version: make sure it's from a US District Court and signed by a judge, not an immigration officer.
Wtf even is an ICE warrant?
Seems like it holds absolutely no authority???
It's internal DHS paperwork masquerading as something with the force of law. So, yes.
should be illegal to make that look like a legal warrant.
Should have giant fucking disclaimer at the top
THIS IS NOT A LEGAL WARRANT
Properly signed JUDICIAL warrant.