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Tankie Bingo! (infosec.pub)

submitted 3 days ago by unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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Had some fun with this. Rules:

When a tankie post comes up, post a legitimate, fair argument. Do not argue in bad faith. No matter how nasty the post may be. Legitimately combat the disinformation there by going into their bubble and posting a sane response.
Watch the responses come in. Especially if the post is on the tankie triad.
Don't feed the trolls. Don't respond to anything, unless there is actually a legitimate attempt to have a legitimate discussion. Otherwise, start a game of tankie bingo to help prevent yourself from responding to the madness.

Suggestions for expansion welcome.

EDIT: well, to the surprise of no one, it's made its way to the slop community at Hexbear. Aaaand again, they totally miss the glaringly obvious point.

EDIT: since some can't access the link: https://bingobaker.com/view/9956948

(Sorry for the double post, sometimes I'm too stupid to use the internet)

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[–] FunkyStuff@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

At this point I could play the game with the hexbear thread. They’ve already misquoted me by cutting off a part of my sentence to make it look like you should never even talk to them, lest they be right. My God, learn to fucking read lol.

You're right! Someone did cut off your quote! Then I responded with your full quote and said the following:

Hey, they actually said

Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t respond to anything, unless there is actually a legitimate attempt to have a legitimate discussion.

We often fail to provide well-meaning Lemmy users with legitimate arguments and good faith discussion. You know, like yesterday when @unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth was telling us about how Tank Man was executed and we started responding really unfair things, like

Why do you think tank man was killed?

You got any sources to ground that assertion in reality, or are you completely full of shit?

And Joe Biden wwas replaced by a body double halfway through his term <- a statement with the same amount of proof and the same basis in reality

In the future, we should be better and try to have a legitimate discussion. I think it would be nice if we instead said something like, "Gee, I hadn't thought about it that way! I guess you might be right, and if I imagine that China has executed any given person hard enough, it becomes true!" or something along those lines.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Except that's the thing: I never claimed tank man was killed (at least, that we know of). I mean, that was the fascination of the whole thing, that he wasn't just run over by the tanks, especially considering what happened afterwards. Which is the reason, at least as far as I can tell, that the video got so popular.

[–] FunkyStuff@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

You said both Renee Nicole Good and Tank Man were murdered.

[–] Funkler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

They didn't reply and my first account got banned, so just in case some smart-aleck is reading this thread in the future and they think: "Well they didn't say the tank man was murdered, they just said that some civilian was murdered after that picture was taken"

That's a picture of tanks leaving Tiananmen Square after it had been evacuated. No one was killed at Tiananmen Square before or after this picture was taken during the 1989 protests. People were killed in other streets surrounding Tiananmen Square.
@unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth did imply they believe the tank man was later tracked down by the government and killed., just after the video ends.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

New accounts get automatically banned if they trigger spam prevention. You'll have to use your main alt account, which I don't know why you don't use.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 1 points 10 hours ago

I wasn't implying that tank man was killed. Again, I knew he wasn't killed by the tanks (which is the whole point of that video), honestly I didn't even know people thought he was killed by the tanks. I was countering the implication of the meme that there was no bloodshed in that time. Because even if nothing happened to him (although I have yet to see evidence either way), the smallest legitimate estimate is the number of people killed was in the hundreds.