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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People are slamming this cartoon, but it is highlighting the past foreign policy stance of displaying Soft Power, which is a positive long-term objective to help rehabilitate America's image as militaristic.

But these dumb MAGA Apes think that's for pussies, and it's more fun to beat others into submission, undoing decades of any positive forward progress.

One of the reasons that the rest of the world hates us is because while we claim that we aren't all really as bad as MAGA, it rings hollow because we didn't do anything to avoid the MAGA threat a second time. Imagine what we would have thought if they had let Hitler escape punishment, and then regain power a few years later? Right now, that's what we look like to the rest of the world, and rightfully so.

If we ever want to restore any respect to this country, we will have to deal with MAGA decisively before this can be over. The rest of the world, and our own country, needs that.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

You're like the only person in the comments who understand something this basic. Props to you

[–] dantel@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Take my upvote, you are right on the money.

[–] ShamanRonin@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

That is a concept I struggle with, although I totally agree with you. But how do eliminate MAGA without resorting to fascism yourself? To be clear, MAGA needs to be eliminated. Just don’t know how.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

MAGA thrives because there's nothing in place to hold them accountable.

These people only understand violence and intimidation. Things like institutional power and limits mean nothing to them. This is why they ignore the courts, the constitution, the law, international organizations, national agencies, and so on. To them, democracy, rule of law, checks and balances aren't principles to live by and uphold, to them they're obstacles to absolute power. That's why they seethe when an institution works as intended and cheer when they get a corrupt one to manipulate.

If we had true accountability, they would never see the light of day. Opposition in a democracy is a chain that goes from the bottom, and all the links need to work together as one. It goes something like this:

  1. It starts with the people. The people need to believe in democracy in order to act, because democracy doesn't work when people aren't actively involved in government.
  2. When the people are involved, they need to create groups that organize resistance movements. These movements need to be very principled, have specific demands, and have specific targets/goals in order to mobilize people.
  3. Once the people are mobilized, they carry out strikes, protests, demonstrations, and other acts of civil disobedience in order to apply pressure on the media and other NGOs as well as local and state politicians to act on their behalf.
  4. The local and state politicians on board will then apply pressure on their national representatives, and the ones that don't will be voted out and replaced. Same for goes for media and other orgs, if they're not on board then they will be boycotted.
  5. Likewise, the national representatives on board will apply pressure on their colleagues to act, and the ones who don't need to be replaced.
  6. Once you have a majority of the national representatives feeling genuine fear of losing their jobs or otherwise from the public, then they will start acting accordingly in order to save their own asses. They will turn to the law, the courts, institutions, and checks balances to do their jobs.

During every step, it is absolutely crucial that standards are clearly defined and upheld. If the people see bad actors in their midst, they need to call them out. If one of their own commits a crime, then they need to be condemned and kicked out. If a local, state, or national politician is defying the people, they need to be voted out. If they broke the law then they need to face consequences. If they defy the law, then the people needs to send those specific individuals a message that they are not untouchable. That's how democracy is supposed to work. Each generations has to actively work to defend it and ensure that the next generation does the same.

So when the next time a MAGA like group forms and tries to take power, they're shutdown at every avenue. They're rejected by the people, the opposition, the states, the courts, the media, non profits, celebrities, and even their own party. Anyone who endorses such groups needs to ostracized and the leaders of the next MAGA like group need to be jailed if they attempt to undermine democracy or the law.

This what needs to happen now, but unfortunately the people just don't care. Society's apathy is what sleep walked us into fascism, and we need to wake up if we want to get rid of it.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Tolerance is a social contract. Those who would not grant it to others are not protected by it.

We don't have to tolerate the intolerant.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They are a proven, unapologetic, and ongoing National Security Threat, who have openly, demonstrably engaged in treason, sedition, insurrection, terrorism, extortion, espionage, corruption, pedophilia, murder, and more. We have all seen numerous examples of every one of those crimes.

All politicians take an oath to protect America from national security threats, foreign or domestic, and MAGA definitely falls under the category of domestic threat. Why shouldn't an organization like that be prohibited from existing, recruiting, and promoting?

[–] ShamanRonin@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree. But I am talking about the millions of mouth breathers that lap up everything that guy spills. The voters. Do we just round ‘em up?

Reconstruction is going to be painful.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 16 hours ago

No, but we can deal with their leaders, and prohibit MAGA as a National Security Threat,.for starters.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 21 hours ago

By beating them to a pulp Mussolini style