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Additional reporting from Bring Me The News. They have removed the following text from their coverage:

Federal agents briefly detained our reporter at the scene, who says he was tackled to the ground and had a gun put in his face.

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[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 86 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

This is why I'm saying we need to get even more violent in retaliation.

People can downvote me all you want, but you know I'm right. It's literally the only thing these actual monkey-brains understand: violence.

If there's 4 of them beating and killing one person, there needs to be at least 10 of us with knives and aluminum bats hitting right back. We need to mix up our own chemical warfare agents.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

we need to get even more violent in retaliation.

That's how you lose.

That's what they want.

Right now two white people getting killed by ICE in broad daylight with dozens of cameras on them is slowly but surely destroying the GOP. There's nothing that shifts public opinion more than a clear narrative of "good guys" and "bad guys". When one side is armed and the other side is unarmed, and the armed people are killing unarmed people, there are clear good guys and bad guys. The white house is doing everything they can to spin the Minneapolis victims as "terrorists", but when they're unarmed it's a matter of seconds to disprove what they're saying.

As soon as the anti-ICE protesters start getting armed and start shooting back, the story gets complicated again. It becomes much easier to claim the protesters are violent if they're shooting back. It's dead easy to claim an ICE goon feared for his life if someone shot at him.

"They're shooting at ICE" gives Trump the excuse he needs to send in the military and start having guys in APCs start shooting heavy weapons into a crowd. It's also much more likely the soldiers are going to obey if they're getting shot at. If they're sent in against unarmed protesters and ordered to mow them down, it's very likely they'll refuse that order. And, refusing that order would be a big step in the end of the Trump regime.

Not shooting back is the main thing that the Minneapolis protesters have done right so far. It's also the most difficult thing to do.

But hey, it's America. America thinks guns solve problems. So, go solve that problem Americanely, while the rest of the world just watches the US tear itself apart and shakes their heads.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 66 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

there needs to be at least 10 of us with knives and aluminum bats hitting right back.

No, because that will make them open fire...

What will work is protesters in plated vests with rifles.

Every state is different. For Minnesota it's illegal to open carry a rifle, and there's no permit to open carry a rifle. But if you get a permit to carry a handgun, you're now allowed to carry a rifle.

The threat of effective violence is more effective than the actual act of ineffective violence, even when the threat is just passively implied by the presence of rifles and plates.

It costs less than a grand to get kitted out just like an ICE agent, hell, most of them don't even seem to carry rifles, but all the more reason for protesters.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 38 points 22 hours ago

The Black Panthers seem to understand what it's gonna take to deter Miller's stormtroopers. Superior firepower.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 11 points 21 hours ago

Protesters should assign disciplined guardians: Kitted out, and watching from rooftops and windows.

These terrorist cowards might come to understand the words "constitutional oversight" when they break RoE and are gravely punished from above in return.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Other people who read the news are not idiots and do not need this thinking outlined for them, it does nobody besides feds trying to make bullshit arrests for terroristic threats any good to share these thoughts on public forums

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

Implying the feds aren't running a troll farm to incite people.

[–] brooke592@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

I just don't want our guys to get hurt.

Don't make a stand in a blaze of glory. The goal should be to make sure nobody knows who did it.