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It's not ignorance to spare yourself the trauma of watching someone die. You can know what happened without having to watch it yourself.

If you want to get traumatized, you do you.

Of course not, I'm not going to traumatize myself unnecessarily.

actually doing it means a shooting war with the US military.

As opposed to the one-sided shooting-war ICE is already engaged in against the people?

Your point is very valid.

However, personally (and kinda anecdotally), I doubt the US military would EVER side with ICE.

There's an unspoken heirarchy within those that serve in police, fire, EMD, and military services. Many of them actually have overlapping skill sets and training requirements. Meaning many military end up as officers or EMD's. Or officers turnover to fire (there's literal waiting lists to get into fire departments filled with ex-LE officers.)

The point is, this heirarchy is always determined by the amount of training necessary to hold each position. Usually with EMD and Military near the top in terms of total training needed, both physically, mentally, and practically. Below that is police and fire, both requiring weeks or months of training a year, and each placing large and permanant physical and mental demands on those that manage to complete the training. Both groups usually look up with respect to EMD and Military. If not for their training, but more for the fact that EMD's have saved officer and fire fighter lives many many times. So theirs a respect that runs very deep between all these people who choose such demanding careers.

Especially the ones willing to put themselves through literal hell training just to possibly save lives. I cannot place enough emphasis on the possibly part. Because you have to get used to death in these jobs.

ICE training is less than 47 days.

Few if any in LE or FIRE respect them. Mostly because most ICE are rejected from their programs for failing training. So they are very much seen as a failure to ALL of these groups, placed in the subbasement of this heirarchy at best. Especially by the military, who have far more training requirements, yet now all earn far less than anyone dumb enough to join ICE.

The people who've dedicated themselves to just having a chance to save a life, do not respect those that on a whim one month decided to cosplay as someone that's "protecting" others. They're an insult to pretty much anyone that actually does the job ICE barely pretends to.

I VERY sincerely doubt anyone in the Military would be willing to protect a group of untrained cosplayers who all very likely failed to learn how to protect themselves. If anything, the human corpses ICE is unnecessarily creating very much frames them as the bad guy to ALL the people whose job it is to actually prevent corpses from happening.

They do not have friends willing to join them. They are nothing but a national embarrassment to anyone that could.

They are the ones behind the masks doing the murdering.

there needs to be at least 10 of us with knives and aluminum bats hitting right back.

No, because that will make them open fire...

What will work is protesters in plated vests with rifles.

Every state is different. For Minnesota it's illegal to open carry a rifle, and there's no permit to open carry a rifle. But if you get a permit to carry a handgun, you're now allowed to carry a rifle.

The threat of effective violence is more effective than the actual act of ineffective violence, even when the threat is just passively implied by the presence of rifles and plates.

It costs less than a grand to get kitted out just like an ICE agent, hell, most of them don't even seem to carry rifles, but all the more reason for protesters.

we need to get even more violent in retaliation.

That's how you lose.

That's what they want.

Right now two white people getting killed by ICE in broad daylight with dozens of cameras on them is slowly but surely destroying the GOP. There's nothing that shifts public opinion more than a clear narrative of "good guys" and "bad guys". When one side is armed and the other side is unarmed, and the armed people are killing unarmed people, there are clear good guys and bad guys. The white house is doing everything they can to spin the Minneapolis victims as "terrorists", but when they're unarmed it's a matter of seconds to disprove what they're saying.

As soon as the anti-ICE protesters start getting armed and start shooting back, the story gets complicated again. It becomes much easier to claim the protesters are violent if they're shooting back. It's dead easy to claim an ICE goon feared for his life if someone shot at him.

"They're shooting at ICE" gives Trump the excuse he needs to send in the military and start having guys in APCs start shooting heavy weapons into a crowd. It's also much more likely the soldiers are going to obey if they're getting shot at. If they're sent in against unarmed protesters and ordered to mow them down, it's very likely they'll refuse that order. And, refusing that order would be a big step in the end of the Trump regime.

Not shooting back is the main thing that the Minneapolis protesters have done right so far. It's also the most difficult thing to do.

But hey, it's America. America thinks guns solve problems. So, go solve that problem Americanely, while the rest of the world just watches the US tear itself apart and shakes their heads.