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I experience the opposite. Whenever I criticise US government, I get attacked by hordes of cringy Americans.
I must say I had a pleasant conversation on workers’ rights in the US recently on c/technology (lemmy.world). By pleasant I mean "not being insulted because I live in France and workers do have rights so I’m a red commie" pleasant.
For the majority of Americans, as long as you are a pleasant person, you will have pleasant conversations, even if it’s about a disagreement.
A. This leads to politeness fetishists and tone policing. If someone says something offensive like "we should remove LGBT+ books from schools," I'd rather shoot myself than speak nicely to that person.
B. This has not been my experience with my fellow Americans at all. I even saw a mod from lemmy.world post mod-flaired horseshit in their politics community about how "The US is not a racist country." Fuck that.
🤷♂️ then you’re talking to different people than me idk what to tell ya
Your instance is literally swarming with liberal transplants from reddit, so now you're just being disingenuous.
I live in the midwest, and I'm surrounded by polite fascists. Fuck politeness, and fuck this racist nation.
Then don't complain when people respond in kind...
If they have dogshit opinions about LGBTQIA people or immigrants to begin with, what's rudeness on their part going to do? Lol
Their opinions and lives already lack any value.
Edit: Just noticed this guy moderates a community filled with bigots that engage in frequent use of an ableist slur, so it looks like this clown is referring to people like himself. "I may be an unhinged bigot, but at least I'm polite so I win!" Just the type of person I'm talking about.
Lmao you don't know even know what you're arguing against. I never said anything about whether you should be polite, I just said that if you're going to be a cunt you can't complain about people being cunts back
Also if you did 5 minutes of research you'd see that c/comedyheaven@lemmy.world doesn't allow any kind of hate speech, there are no slurs in any of the comments, and our most recent post removal was because of ableist and racial slurs. But go off I guess
If you're trying to lie about not being a bigot, you should really not lean into the sexist language lol. But thanks for confirming my suspicions, I suppose.
Anyway, dunking on bigots is always the right choice, so I'm not sure what you think you were contributing by telling me that. Just makes you sound like a typical fragile cis heteroni.
Hahahaha, nah, it's just funny when people who think like you can't handle people not praising you for being so enlightened. Think what you want about me. Weird that you're bringing identity into things considering you don't know anything about me. But at least I don't have to waste more time with you. Seeing you added nothing I accept your concession, you can't win them all. Just lose with more grace next time.
I really don't give a fuck about people like you or your opinion about me. I'm around you losers constantly where I live. I just find it ironic that someone as fragile as you would presume to lecture someone like me about politeness. I'm not patting myself on the back, either. It only takes a baseline level of awareness to avoid misogynistic language. I'm not praising myself, I'm just amazed that people like you exist, and that there are so many of you. Then you cry when you get deplatformed or banned. It's fucking hilarious!
Bro all I said was that you can't expect people to be nice to you if you're being an asshole to them. Don't care? Cool. Then keep being an asshole.
YOU are the one that got all angry and started making accusations and treating identity like an insult. Which, btw, has all been imagined because I literally have not argued a single position this whole time. "People like me" lmao. You clearly have some pent up rage that you're just waiting to unleash on anyone who you imagine fits that mold.
"Misogynistic language" in this context is just a phrase you're using to shut down conversation, just like you tried with cishet.
Yeah, why did I go out of MY way to be an ass by replying to something you said and lecture you about what you should expect from other people?
Oh, wait...
Idk why did you?
You replied to me
They just let anyone be a mod on lemmy.world, huh? Explains so much
No I didn't
No they make us take a test to prove that we're racist and hate women and curb-stomp gay babies
No they just implicitly welcome such users by not vetting applications like a proper instance
They want to be a new reddit, and reddit was a right-wing platform with shit-tier communities such as the extremely ableist and homophobic r/comedyheaven
No no, there was a test. They provided a list of all the things that MLs hate and don't want people doing (took me days to reach the bottom) and we had to figure out how to do all of them. Because we're evil. Literally Hitler. Oh and also none of us can read.
I'm sorry we can't be Holy like you guys. You truly are a penitent congregation. Except I'm not sorry. Because I'm so evil
I'm not even a good person, but it takes zero effort not to use a sexist slur. Super easy just not to do that. You lot always huff and puff about how it's so hard and so complicated and it's just ... not. We've known not to use the c-slur since like... the 1970s.
You really should do more research, how cunt is perceived varies by country and culture. Your worldview is not total. "You lot" continues to make me laugh. You resort to identity assumptions more than a republican. Just as zealous too.
That's you. That's what you sound like.
No research needed. It's a sexist slur. Your brain is destroyed by bad takes you got from reddit.
Eat my shit *cunt
FTFY
Hi from the autistic guy that is physically unable to understand the rules of „politeness“ and burns out while pathetically trying to mimic them just to look like a creep anyway.
hello!
Sorry friend that sounds stressful :(
I’ll give you a politeness pass and if anyone complains tell em to direct all complaints to DillonBrooksEnjoyer
Thanks friend! I liked your other comment as well btw.
How can we have a pleasant conversation about the murders the American soldiers are committing in the Middle East? How does one be pleasant about murder?
That's weird considering America's favourite pass time is to bitch about how shitty our government is
is there any chance you are doing it while spouting Kremlin propaganda? because then there is maybe a time to look in the mirror on this one
Anyone that disagrees with the US government is spouting Kremlin propaganda. Riiiiight....
You are a joke.
I mean, if you take what I said and completely change it, I can see why you might be upset at that. Though I would encourage you to reply to what I actually said.
I am indeed a very funny guy, it's a bit creepy that you know that though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
There should be a bot that posts this link whenever the phrase "kremlin propaganda" is mentioned. Maybe then you'll learn.
:)
Is it wrong to engage in a conversation with people we disagree with?
Would you rather have us segregate based on our opinions?
I merely posited that you might be getting into arguments because you have drank the Kremlin propaganda, but from your posts I see it's more that youblike to defend the Chinese government for some reason or at least like to do "a Whatabout the USA"
also I am not sure you ubderstand what ad hominem is, it's attacking the person saying it rather what the person is saying, if I were to say "you are spouting Kremlin propaganda" would be the exact opposite since I would be "attacking" what you are saying not who you are.
hope that helps
A lot of americans and some other westerners always assume that anyone who disagrees with them must be infected with Russian/Chinese/(insert bogeyman) propaganda.
Whereas the truth is that the Western civilization is on a murder spree and the rest of us who are not Westerners are disgusted by it.
Little do people know everyone is shit and your personality that is only based on ideologies makes you look like a moron. Yes we know there is unfairness in the world. But any “ism” won’t fix it.
Doomerism be like:
Least of all quietism like you display
People who say this think they're being world-wise when they're actually just putting out a general warning about themselves
Yeah you're right shits fucked so let's just accept the status quo, oh would you look at that you're just supporting the current oppressive system.
Being a centrist or "apolotical" is just being a conservative while still being able to fuck
"No Lives Matter" type beat
Just because you don’t care to look into it doesn’t mean you don’t prescribe to any ism
In fact, people who say shit like that most definitely do
True statement, but wtf? I don't think you mean it in a positive way like I do.
I do mean it positively, but I can understand why you would get a negative reading. I was trying to illustrate how reducing words to their components and dismissing them like that is such a stupid thought terminating cliche. Botulism, anarchism, autism, midwesternism, descriptivism are all words ending in -ism but really do not refer to similar or comparable things. The deeper idea that subscribing to or employing an ideology inherently leads to failure, which the original comment asserted, has already been torn to shreds by others, so I targeted the less important but more annoying failure of thought. I should have more carefully selected my words, sorry.
Thank you for replying, and I'm sorry I read your comment in bad faith. I should know you better than that by now, and I apologize.
No worries. Like I said, I should have gone with botulism or descriptivism, to make sure there was no misreading.