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original, saw this somewhere else too. ddos stuff. this one blames ru for archive.today mess. sounds about right. didn' intend it to look like an announcement here. it kind of did. post based on ars story, apparently. who knows

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[–] brianpeiris@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good reminder to donate to web.archive.org

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While archive.org is good and more trustworthy than archive.is, it isn't as useful for bypassing paywalls.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

But Wikipedia doesn't need to bypass paywalls, and you can bypass them yourself with a bit of work.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

There's websites with paywalls that even Bypass Paywalls Clean can't bypass. In cases that it can, it sometimes just fetches the article contents from archive.today.

That doesn't mean an alternative shouldn't be found, but we also shouldn't pretend that nothing is being lost by losing access to unpaywalled sources. For practical purposes, a paywalled source means no source for most readers, unless a non-paywalled alternative can be found to replace it.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's good for you, and it is okay for you to use archive.today personally, as long as you block their DDoSing.

But Wikipedia does not need to bypass paywalls, and they don't require the source to be freely (or easily) viewable to verify the info.

[–] Deebster 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm still deciding how much I agree or disagree with this. It's true that they do cite books which you often can't read online, but adding information backed up by a paywalled proof feels a bit "trust me bro". E.g. I could find/create a site with an impossibly large paywall and no-one would realistically able to check my sources.

[–] mayabuttreeks@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I do hope this move results in more support for the IA/Wayback Machine and helps them to update some of their crawler tech — thanks to the rise of AI, some sites are effectively (thru captchas etc.) or actively (through straight-up greed [coughRedditcough]) blocked from being archived almost entirely, which is frustrating for legit archivists/contributors.