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Still wrong, it's capitalism. Without them, there would be different people in the same position. Hate the game, not the player. Well, hate the game and the player but don't expect change from exchanging the player
Important to note that those people would be acutely aware of how vulnerable said position is. People act differently when they're reminded of their own mortality.
Yes, the Soviet union and China ran/run on unicorn powder and butterflies. Surely capitalism and those 90 guys are the problem.
Me criticizing one thing doesn't mean you get to pick another thing I supposedly like
No, I'm just pointing out that all economic systems we tried so far destroy the environment, it's not specifically capitalisms fault.
For some people, history ended with the fall of the Berlin Wall which is already laughable. For you, history started with its building.
Nope, since the industrial revolution we had capitalism, communism, feudalism and a bunch of others, and they all destroyed the environment. Norilsk was a nightmare well before the wall went up. London had unbreathable air a century before that.
They aren't talking about expecting change. They are talking about demanding change at gunpoint, and honestly I can't say I'm entirely opposed.
These people are completely unaffected by the law or any other form of consequences. They have removed our capability to peacefully take action, but the less-peaceful option is always there and there are legions more of us.
What's your best, longest-lived example of a society without capitalism? Do you have any?
By capitalism, I mean
"private individuals or companies that own and control businesses and property", the simplest definition of capitalism
Collective ownership is very common (no pun intended) global and throughout history
That's not the simplest definition because it's not the definition of capitalism at all. You can have property ownership without capitalism.
Capitalism was literally invented in the last few hundred years.
You have mercantilism and other forms of private business without capitalism. A yeoman making something and selling it isn't capitalism.
Your definition is intentionally bad because you do in fact have to separate capitalism from just the very generic concept of private enterprise.
any socialist society will be inherently disadvantaged by the fact that the global hegemon, the USA, is hellbent on destroying them. so, given that, maybe the soviet union? china? they certainly aren't perfect, soviet union especially, but any future socialist project can (and should) learn from their successes and mistakes
I'm pretty sure what most people are referring to here is unfettered capitalism. It's not an on/off switch, you can have certain aspects of one thing combined with the other.
By that definition, Roman Empire? Which lasted pretty damn long, by similar methods. Imperialism. A government that has at least a veneer of responsibility to the populace.
I mean there's big differences, but more similarities imo.
No one ever does.
We need regulated capitalism. I don't mind working for money. Most lemmys would like to smoke weed all day and not do shit. World dont work like that kids.
Capitalism with regulation and taxation of billionaires. Welfare state for the sick and elderly. Why is this so hard? We don't need communism.
Cooperatives are the best answer. Capitalists will argue they should outcompete traditional firms in the market. If they're supposed to be better they'd win, right? But the thing is they're only better for most people.. and not the few richest that benefit the most from the current capitalist system. And everyone's too damn brainwashed to understand private ownership of the means of production is the root cause of so many problems. But let's just regulate capitalism.
If cooperatives goal is to provide for its members and community while a traditional firms goal is profit maximization, regulation fixes nothing.