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You're allowed to be antisemitic now as long as you use the word "zionist" instead of "jew".
Nobody has ever used this one weird trick before ever, so it's sure to trick everyone! Just remember to use the word "genocide" as many times as you can when someone calls you out for antisemitism. Bonus points if you say "Ackshually the ~~jews~~ zionists are the nazis!" That's super original and you automatically win every argument when you compare a group of people with the nazis.
Then you can go about making conspiracy theories about the ~~jews~~ zionists controlling the media, being the secret puppet masters of the world, etc. all you want!
I respect the Jewish faith, and think genocide is wrong and should be stopped.
Call me an antisemite now, fuckface.
Do you consider the acts of Hamas on October 7 to be a genocide?
What are you actually asking me? Don’t play stupid coy games.
Do you think of the massacre of women and children to be a game? I consider the actions Hamas commuted on October 7 to be genocidal, not a game.
You a disgusting person to think of genocide as "a game."
Yes, that’s definitely what I said. You bested me and trapped me with definitely my own words. I bow down to your genius.
So you agree genocide is always wrong then, right?
I dont respect any abrahamic religion. Look what they have brought to the world.
~ Christopher Hitchens, explaining why we should invade Iraq
And don't forget about people of Jewish ethnicity who are not religious. I respect them too, though I oppose Israel's genocide.
Bad take.
"certain sector of people"
Hmmmm.... which sector of people would that be? Oh I'm sure you believe there's "some good ones" when you think about Jews.
So you don't even recognize Jews exist now? You've erased the entire Jewish identity from your mind in your rationalizations of how you're not antisemitic? That's really disturbing.
It's the sector of people that want to colonize Palestine, genocide the natives and create an ethnostate. That sector of people.
Yes, that sector.
This isn't a cryptic mystery here. This isn't anti semitic. Are you saying all Jews are zionists
What? No, I'm actually saying the exact opposite. I'm the one who informed spacecowboy that most zionists are Christian.
WTF is going on here. Lol
The sector that supports active genocide of Palestinian people.
Once again....most zionists are Christian. I honestly believe that you know exactly what I am saying and are trying to twist my words into something else that would fit your narrative using semantics.
And yes, I have absolutely erased Jewish identity, in my own mind. I am Hitler, in my own mind and I am trying to detach from the guilt I feel, in my own mind. Congrats. You figured me out!
You win a prize!
How do you feel about the "sector of people" that supports the genocide of Jews? Sectors like Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and the Ayatollah of Iran. Whoops, scratch that last one!
Guess what. I'm against that too! I just think genocide is not the best thing. It's not really that hard to understand. 🤷
Are you against the genocide that Hamas committed on October 7, or do you deny that it was a genocide?
Of course, I am against violence in all cases. It was, by definition, not at all a genocide in any way. It was terrorism.
It was a massacre of every Jew they could find and couldn't carry back to their dungeons. Why do you deny that it was genocide?
It seems you're very selective about what you label a genocide. What criteria do you use?
Nope, by the definition, it was absolutely 100% NOT genocide.
What are YOUR feelings and thoughts about the real, actual genocide of Palestinians in Gaza/West Bank that has been ongoing for several decades?
You're a genocide denier then.
You don't care about genocide, so long as it's the people you hate being killed.
I actually do think what happened on October 7 was a genocidal act. The people that deny it are actually disgusting to me. You look the other way when Jews are massacred because you're antisemitic. A war targeting the perpetrators of a genocidal act, that's what you label as genocide instead.
You bought into the bullshit about Hamas being freedom fighters. When they committed a genocidal act, you're too narcissistic to admit you were wrong to ever support them. So you needed to "both sides" actual fucking genocide. You've weaponized the word genocide. You don't care when actual genocide occurs in Sudan. You look the other way when the Ayatollah butchers over 30,000 people in a span of 48 hours. If someone hates Israel they're your ally and you'll look the other way on any atrocity they commit.
If you actually cared about Palestinians, you'd hate Hamas. They've only ever made things worse for the Palestinian people. But you look the other way when Hamas tortures and executes Palestinians. You'll look the other way on any atrocity, as long it's done by those who hate Israel. If Hamas survives, another generation of Palestinians may be indoctrinated into their system of hate and sent into the meat grinder so Hamas can profit. You don't care about Palestinians if you make excuses for Hamas.
If you were to admit that Hamas committed a genocidal act on October 7, then maybe I could think "this person applies the word genocide way more easily than I would." But you don't. You do not consider deliberately massacring women and children to be genocide so long as those women and children are Jews. That's antisemitism.
This isn't the first time antisemitism has been popular. You're not the first one that just went along to get along. Look in a history book you'll find many examples of people rationalizing their hatred towards Jews. You're not the first ones to come up with a different term for Jews so you could deny being antisemitic. "Rootless cosmopolitan", "Globalist", "Zionist", it's all the same scam decade after decade. And you fell for it.
The Jews outlived the Nazis. They will outlive you. Iran's propaganda machine is getting shut down. How long will you continue to be angry that the Jews outlived the people trying to kill them? You kind of get a pass for being upset when you're seeing imagery being put in front of you by a propaganda machine. But if you continue to hate Jews (even if you're careful to always use the word Zionist, that's obvious bullshit) after the propaganda machine is shut down, you'll be in some very bad company, historically speaking. There's signs the "anti-zionist" movement will be folded into the post-Trump fascist movement. How far are you going to go down this dark path you're on?
I know exactly what you are doing, and so does everyone else in this thread. This should be embarrassing to you. Peace.✌️
Unit 8200 working overtime this week!
In your mind: How many elementary schools can a nation bomb before we're allowed to say that nation's government is evil and should be eliminated?
Because Israel is constantly targeting and killing women and children, and you're...ok with that? Please explain.
How many protesters can the Ayatollah execute before you'll admit the Iranian government is evil and should be eliminated?
You're arguing regime change is necessary when a government is evil. Iran's government has killed tens of thousands of people in the last few months. So do you agree Iran's regime is evil? How are you deciding which regime is evil and "should be eliminated"? Does it have anything to do with the predominate ethnicity of the countries being discussed?
I did not argue that regime change is necessary. I didn't say a goddamn thing about regime change.
What I said was a direct question, and your dishonest ass couldn't answer it.
So I will repeat it: HOW MANY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN IS ISRAEL ALLOWED TO MURDER BEFORE YOU'LL BE AGAINST IT?
Answer the goddamn question I asked or leave me alone.
Emphasis added.
Do you make a distinction between eliminating a nation's government and a regime change?
Or were you just JAQing off there?
I uh... what? Is this a joke?
I don't know you tell me. Are the current efforts to zionist wash all of the old antisemitic tropes a joke? I'd think after a bunch of Jews got massacred in Australia y'all would realize antisemitism is real, it's global, and maybe it's not a joke.
I dont think there's a single person here that would say antisemitism is fake. But a blanket "Your an antisemitic a-hole" for anyone that has a differing opinion is literally the same thing, just with religion removed.
Im not saying thats what you are doing, because both your comment and reply have deeply confused me. I dont like to assume withiut at least some level of confirmation, and I never got my answer anyway...
Ah so you recognize antisemitism is real. Good for you. Do you also recognize that there's a deliberate effort to make antisemitism acceptable by preemptively discrediting all claims of antisemitism?
That's what the meme is about isn't it? The point is that "it's ok to say whatever you want, antisemitism isn't real." You're being front loaded with the idea that if anyone says something is antisemitic that person should automatically be discredited.
If all accusations of antisemitism are false, that logically means antisemitism isn't real.
A very insidious tactic they're using here isn't it?
What? The meme is clearly about using antisemitism as a false flag to shut down arguments.
You may have been on the internet too long, you should take some time to yourself. You have used the word 'antisemitism' 11 times in our comment chain alone, including your original comment. You might be trying too hard.
Edit: you still haven't answered my original question either.
Yes, it's about characterizing all accusations of antisemitism as being a "false flag" before any discussion happens. How can you know what will be said in future discussions? If all accusations of antisemitism in all future discussions are preemptively declared "false flags" that's a declaration that antisemitism no longer exists.
You may have been on the internet too long. The internet is filled with rationalizations for hate speech and you might have bought into some of them. The "anti-zionists" talk like antisemites, act like antisemites... take some to to consider whether anti-zionism is just a rebranding of antisemitism. Consider that all of the usual antisemites like Candace Owens are saying the exact same antisemitic conspiracy theories, but they're careful to use the word "zionist" where they used to say "jews". Consider that the people JD Vance has been talking to indicate the usual anti-semites that have now rebranded themselves as anti-zionists are being folded into the American fascist movement.
In these times it's important to establish some red lines you refuse to cross. Because they don't start with "Hitler was right" on day one. They make you hate a certain group of people and then expand that group over time. Fascists are pushing "anti-zionist" rhetoric, there's been a rise in attacks on synagogues and there's been a massacre of Jews celebrating Hanukkah. How long can you deny that these events aren't connected to the "anti-zionist" rhetoric you're seeing? You may believe there's a distinction between zionists and jews, but it's very obvious there's a lot of people committing violent acts that don't care about that distinction.
Why should I care about your rationalizations more than I care about the fact that "anti-zionist" rhetoric is resulting in violence against Jews? To me, if your rhetoric results in violence against Jews, your rhetoric is antisemitc no matter what you call it. Just more racist dog whistling by racist assholes.
Dude this is a bot or troll account. Its impossible to write this much and say absolutely nothing.
Sorry for being more literate than you.
Literate people dont regurgitate the same sentence twice. You talk like a politician. Im not trying to belittle you, upset you or anything. But im not kidding when I say Donald Trump makes more sense in his mad ramblings on Twitter or truth social than what you ended up saying.
To paraphrase Abe Lincoln, if I had more time I would've written a shorter comment. Maybe if you were able to engage in actual conversation rather than just making lame insults, I'd put some more effort into proofreading and editing down comments. I get the feeling you're not capable of appreciating that effort so I won't bother to make it.
I never insulted you once.
There is a deliberate effort to have Israel equal the Jewish faith, so any criticism of the state can be ignored through calls of antisemitism. It's transparent, part of the Israeli governments playbook and exactly what this meme is about.
I'd also like to point out that you specifically, Spacecowboy, have done some BLATANT genocide denial in the past, so it feels particularly hollow coming from you.
The only one being mislabeled in this meme is the EU. Ukraine is actually defending themselves form an invader (Israel is bombing civilians basically for fun at this point, Hamas is no real threat to them.)
Now who's in denial? Do you deny the acts committed by Hamas on October 7? Many people were saying they were no threat before that day. Now you're saying it again.
Do you consider what Hamas dead on October 7 to be genocide? Why not?
You insinuate any push back against Israel is antisemitism, while having very vocally denied the genocide. It's very easy to see through.
You insinuate that all antisemitism is false. It’s very easy to see through.