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[–] tangible@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This won't help the poor countries, they will have the technological knowledge but not the budget. All it will do is give billionaires the ability to travel to some far-off planet, like Elon Mu... you know what, I agree.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago

This won’t help the poor countries, they will have the technological knowledge but not the budget. All it will do is give billionaires the ability to travel to some far-off planet, like Elon Mu… you know what, I agree.

Something's gone wrong here. Sounds like responding to something completely different, and/or did not deeply grasp what was said.

All the suppressed and secreted emancipatory technologies should be released, giving everybody interstellar spaceships of their own, in as little time as an afternoon.

This won’t help the poor countries

...? But... all the emancipatory technologies have been released, giving everybody interstellar spaceships of their own.

How would that not help?

How would they still be poor?

Would we even still have countries?

I'm struggling to get my head around that reply.

All it will do is give billionaires the ability to travel to some far-off planet, like Elon Mu… you know what, I agree.

Was it all just a set up for the joke? And that's why it does not make sense?

Because if everybody has their own spaceships, and all the emancipatory technologies have been released, we're in the transcendent realms of egalitarian abundance there. Who cares what Elon Mu' does. How would it be "All it will do" is something to billionaires (... would "billionaires" have any meaning any more?), when we've all abundance ("billionaires" included) far in excess of what billionaires had. We can each travel to some far-off planet.

... And they've been suppressing this technology for about 100-200 years!

Think about that, look into it, and as you do, let it hit you hard in the face, the horror... all those resource wars, all those mass starvations, all the genocides, all the mass poisonings, all the mutilations and interferences in our lives, all the human culls, all, for all this time, unnecessary.

Follow the tech arc from Michael Faraday through to Nikola Tesla (just the most showy and loud of countless innovators of the time), including worth stopping by the Sonora Aero Club (and Charles Dellschau's 1850's drawings), and the bell and foo-fighters, and it starts becoming less implausible sounding, the assertions that we could have done this in the 1930s. Spaceships for everybody.

Yeah. Wild how much emancipatory technology has been suppressed for generations. Cannabis, AKA Hemp, is just the tip of the agnotological iceberg of abuse. ... Bloody Anslinger & Hearst, (learning from the same book Hitler did, Ed Bernays' crystallising public opinion), telling us our best friend, the plant with a thousand uses, is instead a demon called marijuana that will make your white daughters be raped by n******s, and other kinds of monstrous things, turning ourselves against each other in fear, thinking we were involved in necessary virtues. If they could convince so many, for so long, that Cannabis, the main stuff of civilisation (food, fuel, fiber, medicine and more), was instead our enemy, and we had to instead use their inferior, more expensive, less empowering alternatives... think what they could do for things that have not been with us for tens of thousands of years. Think how much easier the agnotology industry has it when they're not having to re-write millenia, but mere decades, of history.

Anyway, my usual rants about that, aside. When all the emancipatory technologies are de-secreted, availed, provisioned (as easily they can be once we have access to them), it won't matter what Musk or any other billionaire's plotting any more (at least... on the grand scale. Still though... probably don't leave your children with them.), as we will all have the means to remedy whatever ills born of the manufactured scarcity and economic imbalance that was maintained to keep us down and dependent and eager to be a slave. All that's done. Total paradigm change.

And I do not understand why (though have experienced) this is taken as so controversial. Like... is it a sameness-comfort thing? Like it's too much of a change to be comfortable with? Is that not just why such things are suppressed, but why people are not up at arms about the suppression? People would rather be slaves? ... Is that more of Ed Bernays' work I detect there? Identify with your job, and your whole worth being your usefulness as a slave... That kind of mind games gone on? That kind of governing of minds? We could have spaceships for everybody. Why's there not a political party for that? Prefer some incrementalism? Just slightly better treatment for the slaves, oh please sir, may I have some more? Some seem find it a controversial idea, saying there's too much hate in the world to give that much power to everybody, like we'd all blow up the world, turning them fullspeed crashing... like they don't realise that's like the string-door argument.

Why can't we have spaceships? Because the string-doors don't work in space. That's the string-door argument. Towit the obvious response is "well don't build them like that!". Safe enough for a 2 year old to fly home in, I hear. These things exist. By human innovation. The way I understand it, is, that once you have zero inertia propulsion, safety stopping's easy. Hefty safety margin, when you can stop from FTL in the space of an electron, and not feel the bump, ~ and the outer field has you stop far quicker than any solid object getting a chance to bump anyway. ... And they can print another of themselves, instantly. Imagine, How easy that makes proliferating them. Each and all of us can make as many spaceships for all friends, family, neighbours, passers-by, anyone, anywhere, anytime.

And they were making working prototypes with the beginnings of zero-inertia propulsion in the 1800s! Not just the late 1800s! Not even merely middle of the 1800s, I presume, since the aero-clubs didn't come from nowhere, presumably decades earlier yet.

But then we all suffered propaganda, having our opinions, our perceptions, moulded, made ignorant of what we'd lost. ... Such that to bring it up, seems controversial. ... Or even just dismissed as implausible. Too far from the naive-realist believed "reality" narrative. Best just mock and jeer at the crazy man. "Zero point energy? Sounds like there's zero point to it. Hah."