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Vogues come and go. Effective things might stay, but veganism never was about effectiveness.
Bullshit, veganism is the moral baseline for decency towards other sentient beings. Effective change starts at the personal level and progresses to the systemic once enough people have actually changed themselves. Anything you hear about how people aren't personally responsible is a cowardly attempt to avoid responsibility. People give money to corporations, that's how they do the evils they do. When you can stop giving corporations power without harming yourself and you choose to still give them power? You're the problem, and personal change is the solution that must precede system level change.
Veganism is praxis. Making empty claims about opposing abuse while actively, materially supporting it is not.
Exactly. When I switched to a plant based diet in 2014, if I wanted vegan pizza or cake, I had to make it myself from scratch. Even things like ketchup would contain dairy.
The supermarkets didn't start making vegan ranges on a whim. It was the slow but steady rise of the number of people switching to plant based or reducing their animal product consumption. It WAS the individual actions of thousands adding up and creating this demand. You can buy tempeh in Lidl now, who would have thought?