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A user asked on the official Lutris GitHub two weeks ago "is lutris slop now" and noted an increasing amount of "LLM generated commits". To which the Lutris creator replied:

It's only slop if you don't know what you're doing and/or are using low quality tools. But I have over 30 years of programming experience and use the best tool currently available. It was tremendously helpful in helping me catch up with everything I wasn't able to do last year because of health issues / depression.

There are massive issues with AI tech, but those are caused by our current capitalist culture, not the tools themselves. In many ways, it couldn't have been implemented in a worse way but it was AI that bought all the RAM, it was OpenAI. It was not AI that stole copyrighted content, it was Facebook. It wasn't AI that laid off thousands of employees, it's deluded executives who don't understand that this tool is an augmentation, not a replacement for humans.

I'm not a big fan of having to pay a monthly sub to Anthropic, I don't like depending on cloud services. But a few months ago (and I was pretty much at my lowest back then, barely able to do anything), I realized that this stuff was starting to do a competent job and was very valuable. And at least I'm not paying Google, Facebook, OpenAI or some company that cooperates with the US army.

Anyway, I was suspecting that this "issue" might come up so I've removed the Claude co-authorship from the commits a few days ago. So good luck figuring out what's generated and what is not. Whether or not I use Claude is not going to change society, this requires changes at a deeper level, and we all know that nothing is going to improve with the current US administration.

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 167 points 1 week ago (5 children)

you can criticise them but ultimately they are a unpaid developer making their work freely available to the benefit of us all. at least don't harass the developer.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You make a fair point, but I feel like the trolling reaction they gave was asking for more backlash. Not responding was probably the best move.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's typical of dev burnout, though. Communication starts becoming more impulsive and less constructive, especially in the face of conflicts of opinions.

I've seen it play a few times already. A toxic community will take a dev who's already struggling, troll them, screenshot their problematic responses, and use that in a campaign across relevant places such as github, reddit, lemmy... Maybe add a little light harassment on the side, as a treat. It's a fun activity ! The dev spirals, posts increasingly unhinged responses and often quits as a result.

The fact that the thread is titled "is lutris slop now" is a clear indication that the intention of the poster wasn't to contribute anything constructive but to attack the dev and put them on their back foot.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see your point. I might also have responded poorly to that, on some level at least.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah same. I'd like to think i'd answer "I'll use AI, if you don't like it you can fork the project and i wish you good luck. Go share your opinion on AI in an appropriate place.". But realistically there's a high chance it catches me on a bad day and i get stupid.

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

... You're right. I definitely wouldn't be above such a response.

The problem is, a lot of people here - myself included - were/are also being impulsive about their responses to this issue, at least partially due to all the shitty stuff caused by GenAI.

There might be some toxic people too, I wouldn't be surprised - but this can happen without them, too.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The thing is, toxic people thrive in mob situations and are often found leading or even manufacturing them. I tend to be wary around this kind of setups as they are easy to get caught up in and hard to get out of.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The fact that the thread is titled “is lutris slop now” is a clear indication that the intention of the poster wasn’t to contribute anything constructive but to attack the dev and put them on their back foot.

No, it was literally an important question to have answered. And booooy did the dev answer.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it appropriate to ask a stranger a question by first calling their work "slop" ? Is that how you communicate with people ? How is that working out irl ?

Y'all are so immersed in bully culture that this seems normal to you smh

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, calling asking to identify if something is a thing by the name of the thing that it's being asked about is "bully culture" now? This is a whole new low level of argument in the pro-AI take.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu -1 points 1 week ago

So yes, you think this is normal human behaviour. Good luck with that shit, i hope the world treats you with the same energy.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

I agree with you with the current state of things in the world is hard to keep up and easy to complain. I'd say instead of asking the guy to not use AI ask him what he needs for help. He's clearly stating that he's in burnout.
I don't have the time or skills to help so I wouldn't go complaining.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They are on liberapay if you want to support the project btw. Combined with Patreon, they sit at less than 700$ a week. That's like half a dev before tax

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Yes, that's Liberapay. You may have noticed that I mentioned Patreon.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it -1 points 1 week ago

You might as well donate to Anthropic.

[–] crypt0cler1c 1 points 1 week ago

They were at least. Now they're making Claude's code freely available.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They want to put clanker code that they freely admit they don’t validate into a product that goes on the computers of people who’s experience with Linux is “I heard it’s faster for games”

It’s irresponsible to hide it from review. It doesn’t matter if AI tools got better, AI tools still aren’t perfect and so you still have to do the legwork. Or at least let your community.

Also, you should let your community make ethics decisions about whether to support you.

Overall it was a rash reaction to being pressured rudely in a GitHub thread; but you know AI is a contentious topic and you went in anyway. It’s weak AF to then have a tantrum and spit in the community’s face about it.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nothing is being hidden from review. The code is open source. They removed the specific attribution that indicates which parts of the code were created using Claude. That changes absolutely nothing about the ability to review the code, because a code review should not distinguish between human written code and machine written code; all of it should be checked thoroughly. In fact, I would argue that specifically designating code as machine written is detrimental to code review, because there will be a subconscious bias among many reviewers to only focus on reviewing the machine code.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In fact, I would argue that specifically designating code as machine written is detrimental to code review, because there will be a subconscious bias among many reviewers to only focus on reviewing the machine code.

Oh, it's more than subconscious, as you can see in this thread.

Lutris developer makes a perfectly sane and nuianced response to a reactionary “is lutris slop now” comment, and gets shit on for it, because everybody has to fight in black and white terms. There are no grey opinions, only battle lines to be drawn to these people.

What? Are you all going to shit on your lord and savior Linus himself for also saying he uses LLMs? Oh, what, you didn't know?!?

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The response is only nuanced until the "good luck" sentence. If he swallowed that it would be an almost perfect response. But that sentence is a quite big "fuck you".

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A little personal flourish doesn't invalidate the rest IMO. Humans get aggravated and humans are aggravating.

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, and I didn't say that. I even argued in favor of his response thoughout this whole post (getting a shit ton of downvotes all along). But I think that doesn't invalidate my point either: without this one sentence, his whole chain of arguments would have been pretty good and reasonable. It was just unnecessary to then add this snarky remark. It's understandable if he's pissed, but just because you are pissed when you say something doesn't make what you said a clever move.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I get it. You can't get by "Ai iS slOp" at top level comments anymore. I get that kind of ending because I would add it... but then I also don't mind collecting downvotes so ymmv I guess.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

It's not as much of a "fuck you" as much as "I'm tired of this same fucking response, when all I'm trying to do is get some work done, which I do for fucking free, by the way".