Today I Learned
What did you learn today? Share it with us!
We learn something new every day. This is a community dedicated to informing each other and helping to spread knowledge.
The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:
Rules (interactive)
Rule 1- All posts must begin with TIL. Linking to a source of info is optional, but highly recommended as it helps to spark discussion.
** Posts must be about an actual fact that you have learned, but it doesn't matter if you learned it today. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.**
Rule 2- Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.
Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.
Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.
Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.
Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.
That's it.
Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.
Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.
Rule 6- Regarding non-TIL posts.
Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-TIL posts using the [META] tag on your post title.
Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.
If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.
Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.
For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.
Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.
Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.
Let everyone have their own content.
Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.
Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.
Partnered Communities
You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.
Community Moderation
For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.
view the rest of the comments
That's just wishful thinking.
Voter fatigue + lack of time to actually read the laws they're voting on means it would be even easier for "zionazi oligarchist corporations" to just have a group of couple of hundred employees whose only job would be to vote along the "zionazi oligarchist corporation's" line.
What do you do if you delegate your vote to X, X delegates their votes to Y, Y delegates them to Z and you realise that Z goes completely against your views?
Anyway, that's just representative democracy with extra steps. We already have this.
You withdraw your delegation from X, and lobby for others to withdraw support for Z, and introduce recall/revote resolution to overturn a bad law if you care about the bad law.
That's going to be far less than the 50% voting margin required to institute evil.
Generally, UBI means an alternative to any corrupt giveaway to a lobby group has the alternative of increasing the UBI. Business/Employees can still get rich by making something useful for the larger consumer base instead of lobbying government to extort employees, consumers and tax payers.
Corrupt representatives that ziosplain why you should suffer and die, and oligarchy needs all your money, instead of responding to people's needs, occurs because of the 2-4 year election cycle, and distractions during election time. You only need to fool most of the people on one day.
Why didn't you respond to my point about voter fatigue?
And you really don't see a problem with people giving and taking their votes away willy-nilly?
You really, honest to god, don't see this as yet another avenue for fraud, masqueraded as mistakes?
It's going to be vastly more than the 50% voting margin, because most people will be so overloaded with non-stop voting prompts, that they'll just stop doing it.
UBI only works for the "little man". It doesn't solve anything for Big Business and CEOs who make six to eight figures.
OK, here's an idea: before you start campaigning for a complete rebuild of the voting system that is 100% doomed to fail, how about you first read about democracies in other countries? Read about France, Spain, Sweden, even Poland with all its shortcomings.
Maybe you'll see that the issue is not with the system as it is, it's with education, involvement, and enforcement.
The US failed because of the lack of these three elements. If people were more educated, Trump wouldn't win. If more people were involved, Trump wouldn't win. If there was proper law enforcement, Trump wouldn't have been able to even start.
All three of these elements failed, creating the ultimate shitstorm.
Your system works perfectly fine.... on paper. Just like capitalism (remember "trickle down economy"? Assuming it works, we can presume everyone will be happy) or communism (assuming it works, we can presume everybody has access to everything).
The issue with your system is the exact same issue that makes capitalism or communism impossible - greed and laziness exist.
You get to delegate/redelegate your vote as often or rarely as you want to, instead of every 2-4 years.
UBI makes the rich richer, even with high taxes on the rich. Instead of government protecting the wealth of the rich through extortion power, the rich need to invest/work (or hire more) harder to collect back all of the tax money they spend. UBI saves money for society/taxpayers because war on (against???) poverty costs huge a huge bureaucracy expense, and while only essential role of governance, is a pointless distraction that would contribute to voter fatigue when all political capital is entrenched to make poverty a practical threat to oppress workers.
These are at least dysfunctional as US. Even more Russophobia and foreign (US) bootlicking control, with ultra cheap CIA/Atlanticist control of every political party allowed to run and all media. Democracy might as well be defined as how much a country supports genocidal US/Zionazi regime, because the correlation with "legitimate government" is absolute.
Liquid democracy, and perhaps even more, UBI makes truth and freedom more powerful for pluralist outcomes, because of the multitiude of personal freedom, including the freedom to promote social prosperity outcomes, without the corruption of money/media making truth/progress impossible. Constitution, and electoral theater, is absolutely worthless. There needs a military coup in order to evolve progress, because corrupt power politics ensures corrupt oppression.
Your genuinely absurd grasp to protect existing corruption and dysfunctional lack of any progress, saying the magic solution is better education and news fatigue, doesn't even have a path to more education, or more hate programing when the educated pick the less evil binary choice. You are simply disgusting for whatever dementia made you write this.
Ah... You're that kinda guy. Got it. Waste of time.
right. democracy's only right outcome is pursuing prosperity through war on Russia. More education, but don't learn about Hitler and Napoleon. We see what kinda guy you are.