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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hate to say anything that would defend any of this, but cheap Chinese routers are very prone to security issues. There's a guy that has a youtube channel built arond taking apart and reverse engineering all kids of electroncis. He's found some pretty bad stuff in generic routers, static logins, telemetry sent home, remote executable code in the admin portal while not logged in.

I agree there's a lot more here they hope to gain, and that those gains are their primary objective, but there are some real issues from consumer network electronics.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

That may be true and is certainly a well known concern …. Yet given the US government’s recent history, I have a hard time believing much of what they say

Cheap Chinese routers as a risk being true doesn’t prevent it from also being true that the current us administration is full of shit and likely more concerned about enriching someone connected to them, or tilt at windmills

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

There's better ways to do it then, EU don't have that problem for example, and we buy plenty from China.

We just have safety and security standards enshrined into law, and don't deal with anyone that doesn't agree to follow them.

It's why some products have the C€ symbol on them, which is "this has been imported, and meets all legal requirement", and all shops are not allowed to sell anything without that cert if imported.

(Though this don't apply to direct-to-consumer delivery from other nations, so it's not bulletproof)

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's kinda what's going on. They're pulling the FCC logo and making it illegal to resell without authorization. Hopefully, (but not assuredly) part of that authorization will be to make sure they comply with security.

Though I'm absolutely certain those 'agreements' cost a pretty penny and it's lining someone's pocket as well.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah but the C€ don't require you to manufacture some or all parts in the country though, or to pay a fee for the courtesy of dodging the law

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pay a fee for the courtesy of dodging the law

Not that i'd be suprised for it to be so, but conditional approval doesn't automatically mean pay a fee and we don't check.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

This is America

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I read this right it goes beyond the cheap no-name Chinese stuff that we hopefully all know to avoid by now. This would prevent US companies from outsourcing manufacture to foreign countries, which pretty much all companies do at this point

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would keep routers.ca from reselling Temu routers, net win.

I just hope that part of this doesn't include mandatory backdoors for US agencies. This might be the start of the great firewall of the US

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if that ends up being the case, us linux nuts can start making and selling our own routers!

Side Hustle!

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

until that has you labeled as a terrorist

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

They'll nail us to the wall for using lemmy before they nail us for making routers :)