I was fairly sure I'd seen the overall numbers and that they'd risen but of course now I cannot find that. However I found data that supports my main point there which is that loads of kids are vaping and we have good reason to think they'd have avoided cigarettes if vapes weren't a thing:

From 2011 to 2022, current use of electronic cigarettes:

Increased 667% among middle school students, from 0.6% to 4.6%.

Increased 567% among high school students, from 1.5% to 10.0%. This was a 64% decrease from the peak rate of 27.5% in 2019.

In 2022, more than 825,000 children started using e-cigarettes, or more than 2,200 per day.

Source: https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-smoking-trends

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's on the parents, not a product that can only legally be sold to adults.

Kids will always do shit they're not supposed to. I'd much rather they be vaping than smoking.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I never said we need to ban vaping. I said we need to stop pretending it's harmless. This is exactly what happened with smoking: everyone knew it was bad for them, but people who wanted to believe otherwise minimized the danger of smoking for decades. Let's not make the same mistake again.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

I don't disagree