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...because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law...

...VPNs might protect you against garden-variety criminals, but the intentional commingling of origin/destination points by VPNs could turn purely domestic communications into “foreign” communications the NSA can legally intercept (and the FBI, somewhat less-legally can dip into at will)...

Certainly the NSA isn’t concerned about “incidental collection.” It’s never been too concerned about its consistent “incidental” collection of US persons’ communications and data in the past and this isn’t going to budge the needle, especially since it means the NSA would have to do more work to filter out domestic communications and the FBI would be less than thrilled with any efforts made to deny it access to communications it doesn’t have the legal right to obtain on its own.

Since the government won’t do this, it’s up to the general public, starting with everyone sharing the contents of this letter with others. VPNs can still offer considerable security benefits. But everyone needs to know that domestic surveillance is one of the possible side effects of utilizing this tech.

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[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I think it's somewhat naive to assume anything isn't being spied on by the NSA. They don't have a history of being picky.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Yeah, I think people are making some pretty naive assumptions about all the new datacenters popping up for AI.

What the fuck do you think the government is asking AI to do for them? Shitty cartoon artwork? Photoshopping vacation photos? Or, maaaaaaybe...I dunno....something like data collection and analysis on every byte of information sent across the tubes of the interwebs?

[–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

What are you doing on your work VPN that you care if the government illegally looked at? I work in an industry that legally requires security like a VPN and I don't care if the government broke the rules. It's above my paygrade.

[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 3 points 17 hours ago

Of course. I’m sure they are making use of plenty of bugs found in firewall software to access and monitor business traffic, but they can subpoena those logs at any time. It’s the private vpn clients where logs aren’t kept that they are most concerned about, hence why I was outlining the difference.