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[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not all. There are some bad boys out there.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There are no bad dogs. Only bad trainers. Its a human problem.

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

I think @CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world meant dogs with sunglasses riding motorcycles. Because I think we all agree here that all dogs are indeed very, VERY good dogs.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I sympathise, but the cliché is not strictly true. Nature is all about diversity. Just like humans have a certain ratio of "bad apples" born where someone is hard wired wrong, so do dogs, and likely all animals.

Psychopathology is real. It would be a mistake to deny Nature it's agency. There are people who belong in an institution. Dogs perhaps moreso.

To your point, yes most problems are attributable to bad trainers, but even here there is something missing. Bad breeders - natural reproduction would select for fitness, and truly bad dogs would be limited to a small fraction of background instances. We have lots of people actively breeding killers with outsized agression and fear and ferocity, with hair triggers, on purpose. I'm not talking about guard dogs where fierce protective instincts are balanced with loyalty and bonding and intelligence. I mean literal psychokillers.

I'm circling around Pit-Bulls and the like, but I need to be clear. The breed is fine. Some of my best friends are pit bulls. Diversity naturally makes most of them good dogs, just more context dependant and trainer demanding. I'm not talking about those. I'm only referring to a small subset that were overbred and the natural background level of freakshow.

If you've only known pets from reputable breeders, accidental litters or the shelter rescues, understand that these select for the good dogs. If that's all you know, you would have reason to doubt that bad dogs are possible.