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The game has just been nominated for two Gayming Magazine Awards due to its (optional) gay romance.

"TRIGGER WARNING," the post begins. "Among all the various awards and nominations we’ve received, we’ve also just been nominated for the @gaymingmag GAYMING AWARDS! I’m really proud of that, because I absolutely stand by the fact that the way we did it is exactly how something like this should be done. Non-coercively, naturally, and educationally (because we show how things really were in the Middle Ages without idealizing them)--and without shoving it down anyone’s throat or trying to re-educate them like so many titles that are rightfully called 'woke' these days. We made the gay community happy and gave them the CHOICE to be themselves, just like we did for others in other choices and quests, and anyone who isn’t interested probably didn’t even notice. Except, of course, for [a] very small and very loud minority."

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[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 53 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

In a lot of places, not just far-right assholes, the word "woke" has taken on the role of terms like "social justice warrior" and "political correctness" - i.e. in describing a self-righteous, superficial, performative and preachy kind of style.

Yes, that is not what the word "originally" meant, yes it is partially the result of right wing propaganda, yes "political correctness" and "sjw" have similar issues, but it is still a real thing.

What the man seems to me to be trying to say is that their goal was to do a medieval gay romance in a way that was not preachy or superficial – is that not good? Isn't there a bit too much token representation and pinkwashing going on?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

In a lot of places, not just far-right assholes, the word "woke" has taken on the role of terms like "social justice warrior" and "political correctness" - i.e. in describing a self-righteous, superficial, performative and preachy kind of style.

LOL no, "woke" is anything that acknowledges LGBT+ individuals exist and have a right to live their lives as they want is woke. These fucking snowflakes cry about being asked to pick fucking pronouns, even when there is 0 impact on the game.

Crying 'woke' instantly tells me all I need to know about someone. The same goes for people who try to pretend it's about preaching a message instead of acknowledging these people can and do exist.

What the man seems to me to be trying to say is that their goal was to do a medieval gay romance in a way that was not preachy or superficial – is that not good? Isn't there a bit too much token representation and pinkwashing going on?

And you're parroting the message loud and clear. Acknowledging their existence is always tOkEn RePrEsEnTaTiOn

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

LOL no, "woke" is anything that acknowledges LGBT+ individuals exist

...so the guy who directed a game where you can have a medieval gay romance, does not acknowledge that LGBT+ individuals exist?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

...why do you think he has to say he's not "doing that woke shit" while doing nothing particularly different from "that woke shit"? He had to get on front of people who agree with him who were going to cry about a gay romance existing, but now they have a narrative to follow when it comes up.

In other words, "it's different when we do it"

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So what should be the word we use for “media that depicts positive social ideologies?” Apparently “woke” includes the definition “while being super preachy about it.”

Of course, in that split, it’s also common people will call something “preachy” when a gay guy is there, and doesn’t even waste the viewer’s time. It happened to that horrible conservative animated show, as well.

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

So what should be the word we use for “media that depicts positive social ideologies?” Apparently “woke” includes the definition “while being super preachy about it.”

For a lot of people it does, yeah. I don't know if the best solution is to run away from the word, though – like you say, it's good to have a word for this stuff, and a different word is just as susceptible to being tainted by conservative strategists.

[–] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Its not good, because you are now playing into the toxic norms that already exist. So its ok if straight stuff is upfront, but gay stuff has to be optional? This is completely pathetic and I will never support this, this team or game.

Dude is doing so much mental gymnastics to make himself sound superior. Again, it is really pathetic.

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 27 minutes ago

because you are now playing into the toxic norms that already exist'

how? I don't get it.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you. I’m a lefty myself, but leftists have such a hard time seeing that criticism of their own side actually has validity. I totally understand what this developer is saying about depicting a progressive topic without being “woke” (preachy) about it. I see the same thing in movies/shows that depict female heroes—there are some that just mad the hero a woman, and then there are others that pump the “girl power” angle, overplay the female lead, make it explicitly clear she’s better than all the male characters, bloat the script with feminist jargon, blah, blah, blah. It’s stupid. You want to do the progressive thing? Fine. Just do that. Don’t brow-beat your audience with a political message about it.

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 22 minutes ago

yep, it's great to have a progressive message, but a progressive message is not an easy-button - you still have to do the hard work of making good art

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Now now, don't be getting all reasonable. This is the internet after all!