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This question really highlights how this is by design.
The system becomes more and more expensive to exist in, forcing people to choose money over morals every day just to survive.
Because if you're living paycheck to paycheck, of course you'll work for raytheon.
Of course youll take that 50k cash for joining the ICE gestapo.
Of course you'll only ever buy the cheapest shit from amazon and temu despite then using slave labour and killing factory workers.
Of course you'll give up your morals to not have to live like everyone else that's been made into the impoverished 90% of the population, on the astronomical chance you'll get a taste of the 1% life.
Buying less is the closest thing you can do to an ethical choice. So I have started to grow some of my own food and encourage friends to come round mine instead of going to a restaurant, plus I can make better food and brew my own mead.
How many people working at Auschwitz were justifying it by needing the money, what did they need the money for?
nobody working for raytheon is working paycheck to paycheck. their starting salaries are over 100K for entry level jobs.
not to mention they make a lot more they weapons. they make radars and sensors.
You misread my comment. I said "If you're living paycheck to paycheck, of course you'll work for raytheon" meaning that someone who is living on the edge of homelessness will give up their morals and take the job at raytheon, because of the money.
Radars and sensors for what, schoolbuses? Hospitals?
A company making military hardware doesn't need to make explosives for them to be making weapons.
The same way these AI companies don't have to pull the trigger, they just provide server space to run their 'target acquisition' software and let the jackbooted thugs do the rest.
someone living on the edge of homelessness won't ever be hired by them. Their workforce is upper middle class professionals.
for aviation and boats and civilian applications. they also make navigation systems, autopilots, etc.
I have friends who work for Raytheon, last time I checked they were just nerdy engineers, not jackbooted thugs.
When you're in a wilful misrepresentation competition and your opponent is an online commenter...
I didn't say your friends were jackbooted thugs. I am talking about the people and governments that these companies supply.
I would, however, say your friends are working for a company that is actively arming and supporting ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Im an out of work professional who could conveivably work at raytheon and it kinda depends on what you mean by edge but eventually if something does not happen myself and my wife will be homeless. Savings run out.
Salary level has nothing to do with "living paycheck to paycheck." I've met plenty of well paid people that fit that description. Either because of cost of living or just because they're dumb and can't live below their means.
salary level well above median income and you're living paycheck to paycheck is a personal problem. Not a social problem.