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If everything good is impossible, maybe the USA should just cease to exist? Why is it that China can achieve so much so quickly when the USA hasn't achieved anything remotely positive since the fucking moon landing?
Because that is building a station in an area that did not previously have that form of transportation, and thus does not have a massive quantity of people that rely on it for daily survival?
What a fucking bizarre train of thought. Literally toddler logic, “Waaaah, the fix isn’t simple and easy so it might as well cease to be! Fuck all the working people that make up the population! Here’s an asinine reason why they all deserve to be thrown in the garbage!”
Also really? I despise the US too, and it’s leadership has been a force of immense evil, but you can’t think of a single positive thing someone in the US has done, or a single positive thing that has happened in the US in the past 50 years? Not a single thing?
Also why has China been able to accomplish so much? Their systems of organization. That’s it. The end. What else do you want to know?
It's like trying to find the good in apartheid South Africa. Something positive must be there (the music), but overall, it's not good.
We should adopt this here. Other countries with relatively old metro lines (South Korea's oldest was built in 1974, China's oldest is three years older) have a shitload of people using them but also ways to repair and upgrade things (already discussed by others in this thread) without too much inconvenience. NYC doesn't upgrade its subway because it's run by shitlibs who are owned by the bourgeoisie, who lose money when society is even remotely functional.
I agree wholeheartedly, about the adoption, but those types of upgrades and repairs happen quickly and with minimal invasiveness as to not cause disruption. I was arguing against the wholesale shutting down of stations to run repairs and leave tens of thousands completely stuck and screwed over.
I disagree completely. Plus that's extremely vague, "Overall its not good". Ok and? Your solution was to abandon everything, so you don't seem like the best arbiter to make judgements like that. Also, that's still extremely dismissive and asinine. Discoveries, inventions, systems, and events in the US have completely reshaped several aspects of the world over the past 50 years for better of for worse. To try and associate that to a positive like South African music is bizarre. I'm sure South African music has had an equal effect on the world as the smartphone did, the literal internet, a long list of medical discoveries and drugs, breakthroughs and innovation across multiple sectors and so on.
How was that done? On the backs of workers who created and developed everything on the enormous list of accomplishments in the past 50 years. Does this mean the US is amazing? No. The system and leadership is still rotten to the core. But to say "Oops, can't think of a single thing", is extremely bad faith arguing.
Do you really think the working class of the US has not done anything? The list of negatives we associate with the US all come from it's system and leadership up above in some respect, not down below.