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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The sanctions go back to the war, the famine after the war were due to having most of they buildings destroyed and 20% of their population killed. They restarted after the USSR fell and they lost their biggest trading partner, same story with Cuba.

What's the alternative story here, that Kim Jong Un eats all the food? That being "aUtHoRiTaRiAn" means he would rather rule over a starving populace than buy fuel for the tractors?

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago

He is fat and always spending cash on stupid parades and American celebrities so…yea not far off to assume he’s that fucking stupid.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, the fan man had nothing to do with multiple failed 5-year plans because implementing a command economy is historically such a successful endeavor.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What the soviets and cpc have accomplished with central planning is undeniably remarkable.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine what Cuba would look like if the Free Market decided who got to eat and receive medicine when there is barely enough food for the population due to the recently intensified blockade.

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They couldn't accomplish it without mass human rights abuses. It's nothing to be proud of and they're certainly not a role model worth emulating.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's a role model worth emulating

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Use your imagination. There's no need to accept disgusting disregard for human life, for any purpose. It makes no sense to act like they did something good. Stop idolizing the human predators of humans.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well we have two competing large economic systems at the moment. I don't really have to use my imagination.

It's weird we only talk about "human rights abuses" when talking about designated bad countries. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s weird we only talk about “human rights abuses” when talking about designated bad countries

Is "we" in the room with us right now? I'm me, not we.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We are literally discussing them right now.

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, I don't remember mentioning a specific country. In fact I recall condemning human rights abuses "for any purpose", which means I don't care who does it or why, it's wrong anyway.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They couldn't accomplish it without mass human rights abuses. It's nothing to be proud of and they're certainly not a role model worth emulating.

You said this in response to the point that planned economies in the USSR and China have accomplished quite a lot.

So you said this in particular referring to those two countries.

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And those countries are guilty as described. However, they are not special in this regard. That's why I don't specify.

Edit: Ohhh, I get it. You're a tanky and you're mad because I said something mean about your dictatorship of choice. Lol. Adios.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You didn't say anything except that you agree with the US about the USSR and China.