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The EPA has never been useful. I grew up in Western NY and Love Canal are words we haven’t forgotten.
This is just plain stupid. It could of course be better (when all those idiots in the idiocracy of the USA wouldn't elect these stupid Nazis), but not even having it at the first place or monitoring all these issues? This development in the USA is really just extremely depressing.
But I never said we shouldn’t have it. I simply said it’s been useless.
That doesn’t mean we should tear it down. It means we should fix it.
And that's just what I disagree with, and even if it's just information for the interested public and monitoring of harmful substances. Maybe it should have a lot more effect/bite. I agree with that. But... it wasn't useless!
So the EPA, which was first founded in December 1970, is responsible for Love Canal and not Hooker Chemical? You mean the problem that came to attention in 1977, was declared as a federal disaster in 1978, and was the first ever Superfund site? That useless EPA?
If the EPA didn't exist, Hooker Chemical wouldn't have dumped their toxic waste there... 50+ years prior, those wacky time travelers, am I right?
Do you also call firefighters useless when they aren't able to extinguish a fire in time?
The only reason Superfund was established in the first place is because people like Lois Gibbs and the LCHA had to beg for it. The government had very much turned a blind eye to the initial disaster until people got loud about it.
So unless the whole city basically has to collectively shout outside the fire department every time there’s a fire while most of their home have already burnt down, I can’t say that I do agree with your analogy.
Yes, the government, not the EPA. The EPA didn't have the funding nor legal mandate to tackle such a problem when it was first discovered. It doesn't justify calling them useless.
Mental illness
Or just not ignorant to history.
Look up the PBS documentary Poisioned Ground
I've heard every propaganda narrative a hundred times before, traitor.
"Workers were better off before health and safety regulations"
"The slaves were happier before they were freed"
The solution to the failure of safeguards isn't to destroy the safeguards, but your mental illness is not based on logic. It's based on propaganda.
Who here said to destroy the safeguards? Calling them useless isn’t the same.
Lol "just not ignorant" meanwhile other comments have proven you don't even have a basic understanding of what happened. Go look at how the vast majority of the country looked before the EPA.
At what point did I say the environmental protection and regulation was wrong?
I specifically said that the EPA has been useless in preventing tragedy. It’s an attack on the current organization and not the concept, but apparently that nuance was lost on you.
You can't fix mental illness with logic