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Andrew Tate has been indicted by Romanian prosecutors for various crimes, including trafficking minors, money laundering, and sex with a minor, according to reports.

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, I lost my virginity at 17 to a 19-year-old, and it definitely wasn't rape.

Obviously there's not a lot of nuance when you're talking about a full grown man taking advantage of a minor, but I also think it's kind of ridiculous to suggest two 16-year-olds having sex, or two teenagers barely on either side of 18, can't be consensual.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I got my relatively prude vanilla ass handed to me for attempting to draw a distinction between rock stars given social consent and then proceeding to break a law and 70 year old power brokers making false promises to get young women in positions where they cannot say no. I believe that conflating even those two by not acknowledging that they have different terms, is disingenuous to the victims who gave all of zero consent and were not interested in the action, but we're subject to violence.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

To say that few us us here are interested in actually protecting women, just being seen as white knights.

White knights may now proceed to shower me with downvotes.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, but what the law says and what is going on in practice are often (or usually) two different things.

In your own example, a forensic psychiatrist might have interrogated you when you were 17 and concluded that you were of sound mind and had the requisite emotional and logical faculty to "consent" in every reasonable definition of the term.

However, the law says that your consent in this case has no legal baring. This is not to undermine your own agency as a 17 year old, but to protect those 17 year olds who were not as well developed as you, or who might be manipulated some how, and so on.

The trade-off is that there usually has to be a complainant. In your own example you or your parents would (in most jurisdictions), need to ask the police to press charges.

Of course, the age of consent varies between jurisdictions. Here I think it's 16. I went to school with someone who got married when she was 16 because she had become pregnant when she was 15. I didn't realise at the time how messed up that was.

I'm reminded of the fascinating and macabre history of Pitcairn Island. The abridged version is that in the 1700's (?) a sailing ship named the Bounty visited Tahiti for several months where many of the crew became involved with Tahitian ladies. Rather than return to their lives they mutinied, and absconded to an uninhabited island with their brides. Much violence and depravity, and later fanatical religious stuff ensued, but ultimately a tiny community of several dozen people survived to the 1990's. At that time it emerged that underage sex / rape was a common and even celebrated practice. It's a truly incredible story for a variety of reasons.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Law depends on jurisdiction, some have lower ages of consent and some give allowances when the ages are within a couple years of each other.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

However, the law says that your consent in this case has no legal baring.

Many places have a sliding scale, usually a window of a few years. 19 and 17 was legal under that scale.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

That would be crazy otherwise.

John (17 years and 11 months) and Mary (17 years and 5 months) are in an intimate relationship since 6 months and are sexually active.

John hits his birthday and now they can't have sex for 6 months (otherwise it would be rape).