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[–] artyom@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"Nostalgia" is not really reserved for great times, just different times. Is just reminiscing.

In addition, AIM was great at the time because it was the first "messenger". It was instant without the clunky and slow interface of email that for some reason we continue using 30 years later. It's not better in any way.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

clunky and slow interface of email that for some reason we continue using 30 years later

Email is actually great, it's the original fediverse - anyone can start a server and interoperate with everyone else. With a decent client it doesn't need to be clunky either, although with 90% of people stuck in webmail I can understand why people think it sucks.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not great at all. It's messy and disorganized and confusing and very much not private, and people don't use it properly. No client can fix that. If it was "the original fediverse" we wouldn't need a new one.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

messy and disorganized and confusing and very much not private

So exactly the same as the fediverse we're on then?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Well nothing is private on lemmy. Or piefed. And it's pretty confusing for normies, more so than email. I see a lot of similarities.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Privacy is not a binary concept. Lots and lots of stuff is private that isn't on other platforms. Email only isn't confusing for normies because they learned how to use it.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. You COULD use GPG in PMs, but then people have been encrypting their email for decades too.

And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics to know where to sign up to be able to email the people you want to email. So I'd still say email is simpler to use. Maybe not simpler underneath on a technical level, but that doesn't matter to the end user.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption.

Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service.

And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics

Dont have to do that here either.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service.

Only guaranteed if you run your own instance

Dont have to do that here either.

Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago

Only guaranteed if you run your own instance

Fair.

there's this thing called defederation

You think email doesn't have defederation?

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Broke ass 70's tech, but whatever

[–] late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They literally said in the opening sentence: "the best thing about early internet wasn't AIM or MySpace"

The post isn't about individual technology at all, but how relationship with technology changed.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago

They literally said in the opening sentence: "the best thing about early internet wasn't AIM or MySpace"

Yes I literally also read the OP. I'm not sure what that has to do with my comment.

The post isn't about individual technology at all, but how relationship with technology changed.

So...its about technology?