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Early internet nostalgia (infosec.pub)

submitted 1 day ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] themoken@startrek.website 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

clunky and slow interface of email that for some reason we continue using 30 years later

Email is actually great, it's the original fediverse - anyone can start a server and interoperate with everyone else. With a decent client it doesn't need to be clunky either, although with 90% of people stuck in webmail I can understand why people think it sucks.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Broke ass 70's tech, but whatever

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not great at all. It's messy and disorganized and confusing and very much not private, and people don't use it properly. No client can fix that. If it was "the original fediverse" we wouldn't need a new one.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

messy and disorganized and confusing and very much not private

So exactly the same as the fediverse we're on then?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No. Not like that at all.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well nothing is private on lemmy. Or piefed. And it's pretty confusing for normies, more so than email. I see a lot of similarities.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Privacy is not a binary concept. Lots and lots of stuff is private that isn't on other platforms. Email only isn't confusing for normies because they learned how to use it.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. You COULD use GPG in PMs, but then people have been encrypting their email for decades too.

And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics to know where to sign up to be able to email the people you want to email. So I'd still say email is simpler to use. Maybe not simpler underneath on a technical level, but that doesn't matter to the end user.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption.

Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service.

And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics

Dont have to do that here either.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service.

Only guaranteed if you run your own instance

Dont have to do that here either.

Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Only guaranteed if you run your own instance

Fair.

there's this thing called defederation

You think email doesn't have defederation?