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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
  • Throws drink in face, shoves, kicks, shoves.

  • Reaches for bottle before drink thrown in face, reaches for bottle a second time but does nothing with it.

Those are the actions both parties took. You're out of your mind to think context is even needed. At no moment was she stopping him from leaving he initiated and continued. Are you brain dead?

[–] peacepath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Of course you can't judge without context: we can't understand. We don't know their relationship, their history, nor what they say to each other.

Context may make thing even worse for the guy? Or maybe his reaction is, still not pardonable, but more understandable with the context?

Getting the context doesn't mean your favorit side will loose anything. But judging without context is accepting to deliver unfair judgements.

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 2 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Thank you. I get tired of people being white knights and such. It might be the way it looks, it might not be. Without context anyone is just guessing.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 25 minutes ago

The only action that needs context is touching the bottle. None of his actions could be justified no matter what.

Context is she was breaking up with him. Add or remove that, the situation is outlandishly disgusting behavior and you're literally trying to justify it. Doing anything but calling it what it is, misogynistic and assault is justifying it.

Notice the whole crowd defending his actions are also trying to claim it isn't misogynistic? Interesting.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

Why is it my favorite side? I don't know these people don't put anything on me.

Context will only clear up one thing, why did she put her hand on the glass and if you could argue it was simple battery. Which would be unlikely because most judges find frivolous charges like that unnecessary without some kind of history of actions or whatever. Putting your hand on someone's glass in an isolated situation is not simple battery.

On the flip side responding with violence because a hand was put on your glass is likely assault. Escalation, specific intent to harm and multiple violent interactions require zero context. We don't need to know anything for that.

If he was afraid for his life his body language and the rest of his actions didn't support that. She never prevented him from leaving.

If you think in any situation his reaction is understandable you're being completely stupid, there's no reason to put your hands on someone like this in this situation.

[–] peacepath@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

So I am being completly stupid, I am fine with it.

But while I do not understand what happend, I don't pretend I do.

What is she telling him? I have no idea, and that could (or not) be part of the explaination.

His reaction looks like anger. It may not be. But it looks like it. Yet what causes this anger? Is it understandable to be angry in such cases?

Anger should not allow us to be violent, and he is wrong to beat her. One this I totally agree. But no, I can't judge the cases.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 minute ago

Yes you absolutely can. He assaulted her. Anyone in this thread leaning away from that is defending this situation and looking for justification for his actions.

It's assault. It's fucking gross.