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Sorry, i wasn't clear enough.
As far as we can tell this man is at fault. He has assaulted this woman.
I was only pointing out that your blanket statement that there is no context in which this is justified is incorrect. And frankly the attitude is dangerous. Is there any context where the woman can pick up a glass bottle to use as a weapon? Considering the level of harm a glass bottle would cause? Perhaps the justification is she is being attacked by a man that is apparently much stronger than she is? Does that justify it? Or does it only work one way?
Again. I agree. Given all available evidence, it seems this man has unjustly assaulted this woman. But your attitude towards this is just basic.
Self defense.
The order of events.
Man picks up drink. = normal with no context
Woman tries to take it = odd with no context
Man splashes drink in her face = bit of an over reaction with no context
Woman goes to attack man = dramatic escalation, but no context
Man pushes woman away = self defence
Man kicks woman whist she is down = awful. Terrible thing to do. Still no context.
Man goes to leave = should have just left
Woman grabs bottle and some words are exchanged = escalation/self defence depending on the context
Man pushes women down again and leaves. = self defence followed by de escalation.
I still think it is more likely the man is in the wrong. But given what actually happened you cant claim self defence when you started the fight.
At least thats how it looks with no context.
Would you feel the same if she had actually managed to hit him when she tried to attack him. Would him pushing her down seem more justified in your opinion? Or is there really no way you could view this any differently?
AGAIN! i am on her side. I am just not on yours.