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Is your implication that the US was wrong?
As if it’s beyond russia to lie or use propaganda or invade Ukraine?
Them calling this out was a good preemptive move either way. It makes Russia wonder how strong their source and evidence are and think twice about getting caught in another massive lie.
The mere announcement of this may have saved Russian citizens’ lives from their own dictator’s ruthlessness.. though it probably led to a few insiders falling out of windows.
No, my implication is that the US was lying
Lying is not a flat binary. What they are suggesting is quite elaborate. Did you watch the video? As the reporter says, it's some Alex Jones shit.
Like the pipeline, the prison, the dam, that one whole fucking town, or . . . wait, no, I must be thinking of something else
An excellent demonstration of why Ned "NED" Price was practicing an effective strategy, because even if it's totally false the US can still take credit for stopping an atrocity that was never going to happen and rubes will eat it up proactively if they even remember it at all.
This is one of the most brain wormed takes I've seen in a long time.
My money's on the US having ulterior motives for everything tbh
Tale as old as tiiiiime
it's a safe bet
Even so, the fact that I could believe it tells you something about the current state of affairs
I think the general consensus is that the US State Department is the government version of Jim Cramer. If you just believe the opposite of what they say, you're usually correct.
(With the usual caveats of critical reading, checking sources, blah blah. It's a good jumping off point.)
The civil war in the Donbas is Russian disinformation. The Cold War, the destruction of the USSR, and the subsequent pillaging by the NATO aligned west is Russian disinformation. I am American and I've never even spoken to a person from Russia or any part of the Soviet Union. I am not a rube easily manipulated by 3 minutes of television programming.
Ah yes, because everything must be Russian disinformation because it disagrees with government line.
A good idea before you start smugly bloviating about the dastardly Russkies is to not immediately out yourself as a credulous rube that believes whatever the government tells you.