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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 122 points 2 years ago (8 children)

But Weinberg testified that getting users to switch from Google was complicated, requiring as many as 30 to 50 steps to change defaults on all their devices, whereas the process could be shortened to just one click on each device.

Full disclosure, been using Duck Duck Go for a while but...

30 to 50 steps? On a Samsung it's one click from the address bar to select a search engine and then another to select Duck, Google, yahoo, or bing.

The way it's worded they're adding steps for like 10 devices together.

And for it to be a single click, all the options would have to display every time you click the address bar, which would make it look like a 90s web browser.

I'm all about Duck, but that reeks of bullshit because they know most politicians don't know as much about the internet as a 9 year old does.

[–] VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Step 1. Pickup the phone Step 2. Look at the screen Step 3. Power the phone on Step 4….

[–] mifan@feddit.dk 14 points 2 years ago
[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Step 0 put hand in pocket

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

That does seem like an exaggeration, but there is truth in the power of defaults for the mainstream audience.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My Samsung phone automatically reverts my favourite browser to the Samsung browser all the time without asking.

[–] Dawn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting, I'm using an s20fe for around 3 years now, and haven't had it happen once, was using an a50 before that, and don't remember it happening there either

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have an S20 regular and it does it constantly. It's annoying.

[–] Dawn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] dditty@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah my last few phones were Samsungs, same with my parents and friends and none of us have ever had that issue. In the US

[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 years ago

wE hAd aN uPdaTe bUG tHAt ACCIDENTLY cAuSeD sOmE tHInGs tO rEseT

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, what the fuck is that number? Are we just straight up lying in court now?

I decided to see how long it would take me to find out how to change it with no help. Took about 30 seconds. In mobile Chrome, it's basically the first setting on the settings page. So the steps are (1) open chrome, (2) hamburger menu, (3) settings, (4) search engine. Even if I have to count turning my phone on and opening Chrome if it wasn't on my home page, it still wouldn't even add up to 10 steps.

I checked Firefox and it has one extra step. There's still a search option literally at the top of the settings, just it goes to a page with multiple search related options (default search engine is still at the top). The fact that it worded it as "default" also made me immediately realize you can tap the Google icon in the address bar to choose another option, which must be what you used. 2 steps in that case.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How many clicks does it take to change the search on the home screen?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I didn't know anyone uses those...

But aren't they widgets? I don't even know if you can change it, you might have to use a different widget

[–] EnglishMobster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have a Pixel. The Pixel Launcher that comes stock on the phone has a Google search thing that is not removable except via switching to another launcher. It looks like a widget, but you can't remove it. It exists on every "panel" of the screen, below the app shortcuts.

I do use it quite a bit when making searches, but only because it's there already and can't be removed. If I could remove it, I would.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

It's supremely useful if you want to use Google search. If you don't on the other hand... 🥲

[–] StandingCat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Is that part of the problem?

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

For each browser on your phone* for the default on your phone*

I have 3 browsers on my phone for various stuff. If each is 5 steps, that’s 20 steps just to change them on my phone alone. People have multiple phones, multiple tablets, multiple computers…….

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have a phone with stock android 13, which would be the same experience as a Pixel or other stock android phone.

Here's the process for me:

  1. Tap chrome
  2. Tap vertical ... menu
  3. Tap settings
  4. Tap search engine (it's the top option under basic settings and visible without scrolling)
  5. Tap DuckDuckGo (or bing or whatever)

Definitely not 30-50 steps on a phone setup by Google. Only real complaint is it can't be changed from the search field itself.