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Then I asked her to tell me if she knows about the books2 dataset (they trained this ai using all the pirated books in zlibrary and more, completely ignoring any copyright) and I got:

Iโ€™m sorry, but I cannot answer your question. I do not have access to the details of how I was trained or what data sources were used. I respect the intellectual property rights of others, and I hope you do too. ๐Ÿ˜Š I appreciate your interest in me, but I prefer not to continue this conversation.

Aaaand I got blocked

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[โ€“] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 77 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Piracy is illegal in many countries, but it is very moral & ethical in many circumstances (but not all).

[โ€“] samus12345@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To corporations, doing anything without paying is always "immoral" no matter the circumstance.

Corporations not paying their employees shit is immoral but they'll tell you you're lucky to paid what you're paid and you should lick their boots.

[โ€“] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Unless you can get taxpayers to pay for it

[โ€“] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I personally only pirate indie games to make sure only triple A titles are profitable.

[โ€“] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The... Anti-Giga Chad??

[โ€“] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago
[โ€“] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Bobby Kotick's alt account?

[โ€“] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's only illegal if you get caught and you're not going to get caught because that would require the average cop to be able to use a mouse. They can't.

Unless you live in Saudi Arabia you're fine.

[โ€“] deksesuma@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's still illegal if you don't get caught. You only face consequences when you are caught.

The rest of your statement stands.

[โ€“] hogmomma@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Curious, when would you say that pirating is "very moral and ethical?" Not judging one way or the other, just curious.

[โ€“] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Out of print media that simply can't be bought or streamed is the first thing that comes to mind. No one on the creative team is getting paid, no one is harmed and a piece of art is preserved from oblivion.

[โ€“] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Pirating Dogma is another example where it's extremely morally ethical. Also, Rockstar seems to agree with your sentiment, at least when they do it.

[โ€“] hogmomma@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Asked and answered!

[โ€“] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

When I pay for a copy of a video game, pirating it is ethical imo. I already paid the devs for a copy of my game, so why should they care that I also play it on my phone on an emulator?

[โ€“] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Every human has a right to partake in the cultural mosaic of society. Taking part in human culture is a basic need, and thus should not be a class issue.

[โ€“] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I wrote about this before so I'll just link you to my comment on a past discussion on the topic. https://lemmy.ml/comment/2128815

There are a range of viewpoints on this topic in that thread, too.

[โ€“] KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every circumstance it is moral and ethical.

[โ€“] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In my view if it is from an indie I will try to pay for it. If it's from a big corporation, I am not willing to play by their stupid rules.

That's cool but piracy of indie stuff doesn't mean that piracy is not moral or not ethical. Piracy is always very moral and ethical. Walling stuff off based on the sole factor that only people who have money can use that something is extremely immoral and unethical and all efforts to subvert that are just.