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Image transcription: a section of a Wikipedia article titled "Relationship with Reality". It reads "From a scientific viewpoint, elves are not considered objectively real. [3] However," End transcription.

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[–] TheCoolerMia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 years ago (10 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Wow, they really dance around that. The belief in elves is real, champ, not the elves themselves due to that belief. This isn't a Terry Pratchett novel.

[–] dreadgoat@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's written that way to be as neutral as possible.

Replace "Elf" with "God" and you'll see how important it is to "dance"

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's the same amount of evidence for gods as there is for elves and orbiting teapots.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Yet gods and elves change the world and teapots are content to remain unobserved

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There is absolutely zero necessity to dance around the non existance of god. There is objectively no god.

[–] Nash42@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What evidence do you have to back up that claim?

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I love how nobody is responding to you, because the truth is: we can’t know, but most of us are very sure whether there is a god either way. It’s nonsense to call what an atheist believes absolutely “true,” because we can’t know. I’m an atheist, but it’s just pseudoscience to suggest that we can scientifically prove that there’s no god.

[–] Nash42@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Agreed and well-put. Lack of evidence cannot give creedence to a claim. It's all well and good to believe in (the absence of, or possibility of) supernatural being(s), but to state such beliefs as objective is not follow the scientific method.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would you say that feelings, thoughts and numbers do "exist"?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Would you say that God has the same power as the number four?

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