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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The whole point of Communism is to balance power away from the 1% and back to the masses. The fact that it is an "-ism" and has decades of propaganda demonozing it, doesnt make that any less true.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The important part is it's not an authoritarian running the show and calling it "communism" or " democracy" when the reality is it's just a plain old oligarchy with a new title applied.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

100% couldn't agree more.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The whole point of Communism is to balance power away from the 1% and back to the masses

But there needs to be some governing body that is responsible for determining how the power and wealth is distributed. Per the OP's point: if the proper guardrails are not in place, control of that governing body will eventually shift towards a person or party who corrupts it for their own purposes. It doesn't matter what the "point" of a system is, corrupt people will always attempt to take the wheel.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This was legitimately a problem after ww2 where the politically active communists were more heavily involved in the war and a bunch of the human infrastructure of (especially local)democracy got killed by nazis

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

balance power away from the 1% and back to the masses

By installing a dictator...every time it's attempted...

Maybe not do that next time and try doing it from the bottom up instead of top-down🏴. It's much more work to convince people that this is a solution and have them help willingly instead of forcing them to go along with it. We tried the Marxist-Leninist way dozens of times, let's try the anarchist way. A capitalist boot or a communist boot on my neck makes no difference to me, it's still a boot on my neck.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why did Napoleon take power after the French Revolution if Capitalism doesn't have dictators every time a revolution occurs?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because short man special!

/s (do I even need this? This one HAS to be so absurd as to make the "/s" superfluous)

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

HE WAS AVERAGE HEIGHT FOR THE TIME PERIOD!!! (I miss overlysimplified so much)

[–] kugel7c@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Rojava is doing exactly as I suggested. Spreading the power out. It's a rare bird among the many communist attempts. I was actually going to offer it up as an example.

[–] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why Xi Jinping lives in a giant gilded castle and any negative thing said anywhere about him is censored, just like every other citizen. Everyone's equal.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago

Citation fucking needed, do you even know anyone from China?

[–] jeansibelius@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Just look at "balance power away from 1%" in China, Ruzzia or North Corea. Do you really like it? Or you just read books and not looking at real life examples?