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[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 71 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Mechanical door locks can be picked, but it must be done at the lock in plain view rather than at a distance sitting in a car while you do the majority of the work and then casually walking up and opening the door. Locks are more of an inconvenience than a deterrent, so it should be made as inconvenient as possible. Connecting them to the internet is the exact opposite of that.

[–] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But more realistically someone robbing your house is going to ring your doorbell to see if someone is home, then just walk around checking for unlocked windows.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

True, but again it's about making it as inconvenient as possible. Manually locking windows and making sure they are locked is effective. In some places they put security bars on the windows. Tall fences can also create obstacles as well.

You won't stop everyone that wants to break in, but you can create enough trouble to keep out most people. Making it convenient for yourself by connecting everything to the internet just makes it convenient for everyone else too.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can't ever stop someone who really wants to get into your home. The best you can do is make your home look too tedious to bother with.

Or make your neighbor's home more attractive. Try keeping the neighbor's house key, neatly labelled & with alarm code, under your own doormat. Just in case.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yes,but you don't do yourself any favours by leaving the front door open.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tall fences are usually privacy fences and they can make it really easy for a thief to spend a ton of time unseen in your backyard.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Usually, but not always. I'm thinking more of the bar fence with spikes at the top.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago

locks keep people honest, and make thieves pick a house that's less of a hassle.

[–] NaibofTabr 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bear theory.

My house doesn't need to be impenetrable, it just needs to be more of a hassle to get into than yours.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not even that. It just needs to look like more of a hassle.

They really just let anyone buy those signs that say you have security cameras or an angry dog.

[–] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Someone mentioned to me that those angry dog signs are a liability because if someone gets bit they can say you knew you had angry dog, so it's best just to have a sign that says dog and doesn't mention it's mood

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

"Dog with sharp teeth"

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Might dependsl on your jurisdiction. But I wouldn't be worried they'd probably need to prove you had a duty of care to them which you acted outside of which resulted in injuries that could have been avoided by you acting with a reasonable level of care.

Also if you did have a duty of care to them and knowingly had a dangerous dog not warning someone of known dangers (the dog) might constitute a break of your duty of care.

Tldr: It depends, you get what you pay for get your advice from actual local lawyers not random people on the street or the internet (like me).

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I think CGP Grey has a video about this concept. It's not so much that a mechanic lock is better or more secure.

It's more that it takes one person $x seconds to break into one lock.

That's very different than allowing a million people the opportunity to break your digital lock millions of times.

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And my smart lock alerts me when someone unlocks it. Sure it could be hacked, but it is more likely that someone will just kick the door open.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Picking locks takes skill, kicking down a door is higher risk of alerting someone or getting caught. Those both deter a lot of would-be criminals.

Whereas a hack creates a situation where criminals are going to target those devices -- it's "low risk". Any opportunistic asshole with 2 brain cells can download the hack and go around trying doors until it works.