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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 155 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The right wing is always stupid. Everyone else is sometimes stupid. But the right? Always completely pants on head stupid, if not cartoonishly evil.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do not attribute malice to that which can be explained by stupidity... But never fully discount it.

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Everytime I see this sentence my brain just refuses to understand it. What does this mean?

[–] pixelscript@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

It gets clearer if you flip it around to sound less poetic:

Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

That which can be explained by stupidity, do not attribute to malice.

Or perhaps in more direct words someone might actually say:

If you can explain it with stupidity, it's probably not malice.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You are walking on the street and a big fat guy bumps into you. Assume they are just clumsy don't assume they were trying to run you down.

This doesn't mean be unaware, this doesn't mean ignore red flags, this doesn't mean to not have a healthy level of caution. It means assume good faith from deeply imperfect people until evidence no longer supports it.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It means if you don't know if someone did something because they had evil plans or were fking stulud, its safe to assume they were fking stupid at the point of the incident.

Especially if the evil plan would have been convoluted and required things to align just perfect for the plan to be successful.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But it is not safe to make that assumption. It's wildly dangerous to label evil as stupid. Giving evil people an in is how we get to where we are.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was just explaining to the commenter above what was meant by the saying. I never said it was correct in all situations.

If you have an issue with the saying, you're free to give Robert j. Halon your feedback.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately you are also responsible for what you say and do.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's called Hanlon's razor, a take on Occam's razor, the unstated part is "all else being equal".

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah and its wildly misused and dangerous.

[–] blue_struct@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago
[–] root_beer@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

I quit believing in Hanlon’s razor years ago when I realized that it’s clearly both. Both stupid malice and malicious stupidity.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

In this case it's definitely both.