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Was really surprised to see the difference in fumbles.

  • Tua: 3177 yards passing, 69.8%, 4 fumbles lost
  • Allen: 2875 yards passing, 69.6%, 3 fumbles lost
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[–] varnell_hill@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It just shows you the power of narrative. I’ve heard Tua mentioned as a potential MVP while no one is saying that about Josh Allen and some are even calling him washed.

And not derail the thread, but a similar thing happens with Brock Purdy. He’s currently out performing some pretty good QBs (and handily) yet somehow some people are convinced he’s worse than all of them.

It’s weird.

[–] Kundrew1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Dolphins are in first place, the Bills are currently missing the playoffs. Players on successful teams always get more accolades.

[–] varnell_hill@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Chrysalii@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We were hearing this about Josh Allen since he was drafted.

[–] Impossibills@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's because people haven't seen his interceptions. Most have been when a drive is gonna die anyway and he's throwing an arm punt

Also he has 5 interceptions that aren't his fault at all

Despite having one of the lowest turnover worthy throw rates people say he is turnover prone

[–] MassKhalifa@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Our game against y’all from last year isn’t helping the narrative, either. Fumble on his own goal line late in the 4th and an INT in the end zone in overtime. I think that’s sticking in people’s memories.

[–] AleroRatking@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean. Bills might miss the playoffs and the Dolphins are winning the division.

[–] lionoflinwood@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

taps sign Wins are not a QB stat

[–] elbenji@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean hurts has similar turnover numbers and TD numbers and the front runner

[–] OttawaFisherman@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It seems like it takes a couple years before people will admit a low drafted QB is actually good. I bet by next year that narrative will be completely shifted and people will finally recognize Purdy as one of the best

[–] Grimmbeard@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly I think if he beats the eagles next week the narrative will shift then

[–] TheYoungLung@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Because many of Tua’s fumbles are because of bad snaps and other weird issues. For example yesterday he put the ball right in the chest of the 4th string rb and the guy dropped it. That fumble stat goes to Tua.

Don’t get me wrong he’s had some bone headed moments with poor ball security but ever fumble has definitely not been his fault