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A reminder that the Lions went 0-16 with Calvin "Megatron" Johnson (alien.top)

submitted 2 years ago by JeanieGold139@alien.top to c/bears@nfl.community

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Just a reminder to the people saying to get MHJ and figure out the qb situation later just how little an all time great, if not the greatest wide receiver ever, has on winning if you don't have a decent quarterback. As great as MHJ might be the return he offers isn't even a fraction to as much as if Maye or Caleb end up being great or even just good. The potential return on investment is just too much to pass up with a qb draft this highly touted.

If the Bears have a top 2 pick they aren't even going to consider MHJ, the only chance is if the Panthers drop to 3 or later where you consider him and then a qb later with our pick.

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[–] ChoiceDry8127@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (9 children)

No matter how many positions you improve, if you don’t find a qb you won’t win a Super Bowl

[–] HearshotKDS@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Ok but DET found a Super Bowl winning QB but wasn’t able to win a playoff game with him. Rookie QB is not the magical fix all sokution this fan base is hoping it is. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad choice necessarily but it means you need to field the best team possible not just the best QB and whatever else you can scrape together.

[–] lakired@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The point is that the baseline for a championship contending team is a good or better QB. Until you have that, nothing else matters. Once you have that, you still aren't guaranteed anything, but from there you have a lot of different paths to success. You could build a stifling defense, put together potent weapons, build a great OL, find a genius HC, etc. Ideally more than one of those. And if your QB is better than just good? We've seen how Brady and Payton and Rodgers could drag an otherwise lifeless franchise to the playoffs every single year. When the Colts lost Payton for the season they went from perennial playoff contender to literally the #1 overall pick. A single WR--even a HOF one, hell, even the GOAT--doesn't come close to doing any of that.

[–] HearshotKDS@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There’s multiple ways to skin a cat in the NFL. Did nothing TB or LAR do before getting their QBs matter? 2 of the let 3 Super Bowl winners built the rest of the team before adding their QB as the last piece and then both immediately won their rings. I think we agree the Bears DO need a QB but the disagreement is that they need it in the 2024 draft if it comes at the expense of moves that would have a greater impact on improving the team. The nothing matters until we find a new QB line of thought doesn’t reflect the actual reality of the NFL where most of the superbowl winning teams built strong teams in place before grabbing their QBs that ultimately won the big game.

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