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[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The EU is crap but it not existing isn't the better alternative tbh. I think way more EU countries would fall to fascism if the EU stopped existing, I'd take neoliberal bureaucrats over my local fascists any time.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

On the flip side, consider how far the rest of the world advanced after Europe imploded itself in the 20th century. Perhaps we'd all be better off if the EU imploded again and the US followed thereafter.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are completely wrong, this is equivalent to supporting the democrats and "anti-fascistly" voting for biden.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah kinda. I'd rather live under liberalism than under fascism, I'm not an accelerationist.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry brother when I see you use those 3 words in the same sentence I can't help but feel like politics is just an internet game to you, you're not an "accelerationist" you're probably nothing. Good luck

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So uh what am I to do here exactly to be the One True Leftist in Europe according to you? My only local real leftist org is kinda crap (I've seen for myself), leftism in Europe in general is extremely weak, save for Greece and maybe France, and that's a big maybe.

If EU liberalism gets deposed it's not gonna get any better here and my life and the lives of many of my loved ones is gonna get a lot worse, why the fuck would I cheer that on exactly?

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not telling you what to do I'm telling you you're wrong about the EU "stopping fascism"

My only local real leftist org is kinda crap

But if I WERE telling you what to do, I'd say join that one and hopefully talk to people in real life. It's better than thinking about things like "accelerationism"

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not telling you what to do I'm telling you you're wrong about the EU "stopping fascism"

It's not stopping fascism, it's just a better state of affairs than fascism, literally the "lesser evil". Stop putting words in my mouth.

But if I WERE telling you what to do, I'd say join that one and hopefully talk to people in real life.

I did. Some people were cool, some sucked, the org itself is irreparably poisoned by petty infighting tho.

It's better than thinking about things like "accelerationism"

Maybe do something similar yourself instead of tut-tutting people about not posting enough eu-cool emojis on hexbear.net

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not stopping fascism, it's just a better state of affairs than fascism, literally the "lesser evil". Stop putting words in my mouth.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize you were making a a "lesser evil" argument, very astute point I'll defend the EU (hitler's wet dream) now as the only alternative to fascism

Maybe do something similar yourself instead of tut-tutting people about not posting enough emojis on hexbear.net

Very silly thing to say, I don't care about emojis I replied to opinions here which I disagreed with, if I had agreed with them I wouldn't have

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah so you're just being a pissy debatebro over my choice of words, got it. Take care.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Not a debatebro just disagreed with you and replied because I think you're wrong. You take care too

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neoliberal bureaucrats create conditions for fascists.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

They always have. Doesn't mean they're not preferable to the actual fascists considering how abysmal the state of the left is in the EU right now.