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President Biden on Friday delivered a ferocious condemnation of Donald J. Trump, his likely 2024 opponent, warning in searing language that the former president had directed an insurrection and would aim to undo the nation’s bedrock democracy if he returned to power.

On the eve of the third anniversary of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by Mr. Trump’s supporters, Mr. Biden framed the coming election as a choice between a candidate devoted to upholding America’s centuries-old ideals and a chaos agent willing to discard them for his personal benefit.

“There’s no confusion about who Trump is or what he intends to do,” Mr. Biden warned in a speech at a community college not far from Valley Forge in Pennsylvania, where George Washington commanded troops during the Revolutionary War. Exhorting supporters to prepare to vote this fall, he said: “We all know who Donald Trump is. The question is: Who are we?”

In an intensely personal address that at one point nearly led Mr. Biden to curse Mr. Trump by name, the president compared his rival to foreign autocrats who rule by fiat and lies. He said Mr. Trump had failed the basic test of American leaders, to trust the people to choose their elected officials and abide by their decisions.

“We must be clear,” Mr. Biden said. “Democracy is on the ballot. Your freedom is on the ballot.”

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[–] avater@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

as a german I'm not that up to date but is it still possible that this orange, wig wearing cunt can run for presidency?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We're working on that. So far 2 states (Colorado and Maine, which have 10 and 4 electoral college votes respectively out of a total of 538) have taken Trump off their election ballots, but this will likely go to the supreme court, of which 3 out of 9 judges were appointed by Trump.

Despite 3 of the judges being appointed by Trump, they have made it clear that they won't do his bidding, so far, so there is hope that he won't be eligible.

I'm disappointed he's not already in prison.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 14 points 2 years ago

The decision is paused until the Supreme Court renders judgement, this was always going to happen.

It shouldn't be happening. The law and precedent is clear. But it was going to anyways.

The only question is exactly how compromised the newer additions are, what Harlan Crow wants, and whether Roberts will remember he supposedly cares about the Constitution as a sacred institution.

[–] zik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think people are missing something important here - this ruling is merely that he can appear on a party primary ballot, which is something not explicitly covered by the constitution. Even if he wins a primary the supreme court can then rule that he's still ineligible to run as president.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Despite 3 of the judges being appointed by Trump, they have made it clear that they won't do his bidding,

They have said that, but have they convincingly demonstrated it?

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I don't think there's a conservative member of our government that has spoken the truth in the last 40 years. I don't expect them to start now.

My guess is going to be that SCOTUS makes way for another soft coup attempt if cheetolini loses again, and just like this time nothing will be done about it.

And at some point we're going to get a fascist that isn't an idiot and then democracy is over for the U.S.

All because the rich are legally untouchable.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

please work harder and also good luck to you

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, and he's just as popular with his voters as he was in 2020, if not more, because they're sympathetic to his claims that all the charges against him were politically motivated.
The 14th amendment hasn't been tested to anywhere near this extent ever, so the Supreme Court is likely to rule in his favor because there haven't been any convictions yet and we have literally nothing to use as precident (and because he personally appointed 1/3 of the justices)

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That will likely come down to a decision by our supreme Court, who haven't been known for making very reasonable (or ethical, or logically consistent) decisions as of late.

My personal hunch is he'll be allowed to run. Happy to be surprised, though.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

He will still lose when he is allowed to run. Because if he is allowed to run EVERYONE will show up to vote him out. Because he's got way more people that hate him than love him. He lost by a lot last time. And it's even worse now that we have had to hear about him non stop since he has been in the spotlight.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That sounds a lot like how I thought in 2016. I hope you're right, but my faith in my fellow citizens hasn't been restored yet.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It's tired and worn out, but my faith is so low that I look both ways at a roundabout.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

He'll only lose if everyone who comes out votes for the same guy. If people protest vote for a third party, Trump will win.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He isn't polling very well against Trump... I have my doubts

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Polls are only for boring people with nothing else to do but bicker. There are plenty of people that vote that don't bother with all the grandstanding before the actual elections.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 2 years ago

The Supreme Court with a majority of Republican originalists would bend over backwards to let Trump run for presidency

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

everything here has devolved into a state by state issue with state trumping federal laws

it depends on who each individual state decides to put on the ballot to allow the people to vote for