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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also if you dig through replies someone calls Napoleon a fascist which seems incredibly ahistorical to me.

[–] FanonFan@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

At the very least anachronistic

[–] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] axont@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The term fascism didn't appear until nearly a century after Napoleon died. It would be like saying John Lilburne was a socialist.

Calling Napoleon a fascist would also open a big bucket of worms that would place nearly every European monarch under that label. It's imprecise and ahistorical. The best definitions of fascism place it as an emergency condition of capital, where the tools of imperialism are turned inward to suppress leftist movements, and this is done among popular enthusiasm. The thing most suppressed by Napoleonic code was aristocracy, not internal leftist movements. The conditions that were administered by the First French Empire were barely at the beginning stages of capitalism even existing.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the liberal mind totalitarianism and fascism are interchangeable terms because they are the same thing.

Because in the liberal world it's important to not understand the economic and social precursors to fascism.

If you did you wouldn't be a liberal

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Fascism didn't exist yet

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, massively so.