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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 59 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It does unironically ship with a rootkit as well. Not joking.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IIRC it is still limited to user level perms on Linux

If a game needs you to enter sudo to run then thats a problem.. or a desktop theme

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isnt that why you can't play on Linux anymore? Not granting root?

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

..no, the issue with typical anticheats like EAC is that some studios simply want to avoid also patching for Linux, and the file system/utilities of wine can trip cheat detection

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iirc no, it's because of vanguard which is a rootkit

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I mostly coming off of EAC which can be configured to run within user perms, but damn vanguard just reads like spyware

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago
[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah there are a few specific flags that Vanguard looks for when it runs, you can easily bypass it by adding some flags to a virtual machine.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay I'd say pm me but I like the scraps of mental health I have so maybe don't.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah I've given you enough, just search up a video guide on YT.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thank you for not. My therapist would thank you too, if I had one.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just like Apex Legends, Fortnite, and RuneScape, among many, many others.

Anything using Easy Anti Cheat (EAC) or Battleye is also using a kernel level anti-cheat.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Incorrect, League of Legends and Valorant both use Riot's proprietary Vanguard Anticheat. The reason it has to run on startup and won't work if started afterwards is because it's a kernel level program.

EAC does also have kernel level capabilities, and in fact conflicts when run at the same time as Vanguard, but your list is incorrect.

Runescape (both RS3 and OSRS) do not use EAC and cannot tell what programs you have open.

While too many games use Kernel Level anticheats, it isn't normal or industry standard by any stretch of the imagination and it also doesn't actually work very well compared to other methods so not only does it not protect you but it makes you more vulnerable.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every piece of unvetted code (like games) you run makes you vulnerable. This isn't any different.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It depends what the code has access to is the point.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you play any of the games on this list that use Easy Anti Cheat the code has all the same access.

The difference is that Riot's thing starts on boot instead of when the game starts. I don't think anyone's rebooting for security reasons after playing Fall Guys or Fortnite.

The complaints are somewhat legitimate, but the fact that they're focused on Riot and not the dozens of games that do basically the same thing is... off. What Riot is doing isn't much different than the stuff that's already happening that nobody cares about (even if maybe they should).

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not everywhere atm

They are testing it in lower pop regions