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[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 99 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The sentiment that everybody you don't like is a foreign agent is a symptom of a very rotten society.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's really funny because nearly everyone hates 'the government', but when you suggest that maybe the system itself is also to blame, you're suddenly a 'foreign agitator'

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If not voting helped overthrow the government in any way maybe you'd have a point

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In what way would voting help?

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never said it did. They're two unrelated things. Which is why i don't understand why voting for the "lesser of two evils" means i support them, or capitalism in any way.

This whole argument feels like the old "if you're a communist, why do you have a phone?" thing all over again.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A vote legitimises the government. By voting for someone you signal that you approve of their politics. A vote is very basically you signalling that you support a specific candidate. That's just what a vote is.
"Oh but I don't actually support him, he's just the least bad" Do you think Joe Biden is going to go door to door to ask wether your vote for him was a "real vote" or just a "please not trump" vote? biden-alert
It doesn't matter what you feel about the candidate you're voting for, it matters that you're voting for them. That's what they count.

It doesn't matter what you think your vote is, what it does is support a candidates claim for power and subsequently legitimises that power. The US constantly uses the fact that it is a "democracy" (never mind the fact that it isn't, since popular vote doesn't matter) to legitimise it's foreign and domestic policy. Your vote aids them in doing that.

Anyway I've blocked you because I don't discuss basic politics with people who votes for genocide.

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

lol, i'm not even american

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"i don't understand why voting for someone means i support them"

lol

Death to America

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unless you're planning on starting a revolution tomorrow, i'm still subject to whatever the policies the people in power install, so i'd rather pick the one that harms me and the people i care about the least.

Though i'm not sure why i bother arguing. You people just want to feel superior for doing nothing.

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