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We do not support the person doing the genocide. We are trying to block Trump.
Also, I don't think he blamed the Palestinians.
And voting for Biden is not supporting a genocide, though I won't vote for Biden.
fuck off
I mean in the sense that many want to block Trump from enacting Project 2025.
Yes, they will support someone doing a genocide to block trump. You have some kind of weird contradiction that you can't seem to recognize where you think you can support Biden as an act against Trump while selectively not supporting Biden's genocide.
This is not possible. You can't have it both ways.
Trump will do the genocide as well and probably double-down. We are not supporting Biden.
We have a gun pressed to our heads and we need to maintain relations with activist groups on the ground are Democratic-aligned or that tend to vote Democrat.
This is an incoherent position and is deeply unserious.
It is not.
This is not how argumentation or even reasoning works. Try to be more serious.
I am serious though. I'm not arguing.
I don't want to be cruel but isn't your mother in the hospital at this very moment, why are you talking about this....
I wasn't.
...and how do you 'block Trump'? Quit dodging!
By supporting Democrats at the local level and municipalities and voting for Biden, but that's up to the individual members and districts; at the end of the day, it's basically just a suggestion, and many I know won't even vote for Biden (many will, of course, but you get the point).
So do you or don't you practice Democratic Centralism? Is that or isn't that the party strategy?
Yes, it is.
No, democratic centralism is not apart of party strategy; it's just how we function.
Ok, this seems contradictory to me. Democratic centralism isn't your strategy, but it is how you function. Can you please elaborate? What actually are you saying here and how isn't it a contradiction to have something be both "how you function" and yet also "not a part of party strategy"?
It’s weasel speak. These people are sycophants, you won’t get a coherent answer just soup that spins in circles
Oh you're right of course. I've read the rest of the thread, but still, I couldn't resist trying to pin him down on something. I was mostly curious to see exactly what kind of weasel speak I'd get in response, you know?