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[โ€“] fubo@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This whole system is a lot newer than most services you've used on the Internet. It's under constant change. Expect it to look different next week, month, or year.

[โ€“] npastaSyn@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Agreed. The systems are being flooded from the migration. Communities are quickly being formed. A little patience and people rolling up their sleeves to make it better go a long way.

[โ€“] whatyousaidontwitter@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On lemmy, you can tick off 'show read posts' in settings, so viewed posts are hidden.

[โ€“] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

This has been quite useful in keeping my feed fresh.

[โ€“] RedCanasta@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There isn't explicitly a profit motive on here (unlike almost every other big social media site).

So you can do away with the clickbait-y, karma or like farming...

We don't do that here.

[โ€“] vewave@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"So you can do away with the clickbait-y, karma or like farming..."

Are there many individual users who participate in these type of activities?

My understanding is that a lot of it is automated: farming with the intent to make accounts look legitimate and eventually manipulate public opinion to whatever ends (like selling a product/service).

Is kbin doing anything different that would curb or dissuade such behavior?

[โ€“] ___hulk@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the ROI here is way less since the users are more savvy initially. Eventually it'll homogenize out and you'll get auto bots.

This post written by a meat popsicle.

[โ€“] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Corben Dallas?!?

[โ€“] Ech@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Eh, I don't see that changing here. There's no explicit profit motive on Reddit either (at least, not in terms of the Reddit account), but it still happens. Companies are incentivized to have titles that get clicks, and users just like seeing the number go up. It's just what happens.

[โ€“] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  • Until we have migration tools, think of your account as disposable
  • Never upload anything you don't want the world to see, no matter how private something claims to be
[โ€“] Royalish@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can you explain the migration tools, or lack thereof.

[โ€“] themadcodger@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the mastodon/Calckey world you can migrate your account on one instance to a new account on a new instance and all the people following you will transfer and automatically follow your new account. So you don't have to be all "Hey moving to [xyz new instance] follow me there!"

That's something that's in the works for kbin and Lemmy some day

[โ€“] npastaSyn@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm curious if that works with unfederated servers or servers that simple just get shutdown. Ie xyz government decides to raid the servers, (is there redundancy in the data?)

[โ€“] MeowdyPardner@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I guess the main challenge would be proving to the new instance that the old offline instance authorized the transfer, maybe something like a keypair could be generated with each account and a signed proof attached to the user profile that gets federated around as other servers receive user profile objects, then provide an account backup function that lets you save the keys as a file so the importing server can verify the key and federate the change of ownership of content to other instances somehow.

[โ€“] sl3dge@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I guess they're talking about migrating your account from an instance to another

[โ€“] Royalish@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Filter by New so you don't see the same few posts every time to open Lemmy.

[โ€“] PriorProject@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

... or top day if you want more established posts with lively comment sections that age out after 24h.

[โ€“] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

I've found that once you subscribe to enough active communities, that ceases to be a problem (assuming you're not checking it every few minutes).

[โ€“] binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When you submit a reply or a post, always save it to your clipboard first. Lemmy has swallowed my responses many many times. In fact, it took me about 5-6 attempts to submit this comment.

[โ€“] IntlLawGnome@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't forget to hit the CTRL button when clicking on any external links so they open in a new tab. Basically pretend it's 2012 again.

[โ€“] sisyphean@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Or use the middle mouse button.

[โ€“] npastaSyn@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or long press on a phone or tablet.

[โ€“] carrot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Or middle click on a mouse.

[โ€“] ndr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Or cmd+click for Mac users.

[โ€“] exohuman@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Join a kbin instance and also join a Lemmy instance. Neither one is very stable yet (kbin has only been out a couple months) so I suggest using kbin until it starts having issues then switching to Lemmy for a while.

[โ€“] npastaSyn@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aren't they cross compatible? I'm still fuzzy on the differences. Also lemmy instances were getting hammered, (as it looks like the kbin are too now), so thus my choice of kbin.

Normally, yes! You can browse and interact with lemmy communities from kbin and vice versa with absolutely no problems.

However, since both are still so new, it's common for one or both to crash. And if your home interface is down, you won't be able to vote or comment anywhere until it comes back online-- even on other instances which are still up. So if you're an impatient person (like me, lol), it makes sense to make an account on each, so if one crashes you can switch to the other.

[โ€“] asimplefriedegg@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago

Set your language preference to undecided and English so all posts display correctly. I kept seeing communities with "no posts" till I did this

[โ€“] DannyBoy@mastodon.ie 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@npastaSyn Thanks to ActivityPub you can use Lemmy/Kbin and other fediverse social networks without the need of making a new account in them.

Right now I'm writing this from Mastodon.
If I were about making an account probably I'll go to lemmy.ca people over there seem extra chill.

Like adding extra Lemmy to an order of Lemmy.

[โ€“] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please tell me how I can follow a magazine / community in Mastodon. I tried to do it but would only see a random comment, not the OP of a post or any of the other comments. When I would click on the comment it would take me directly to Kbin or Lemmy. (Which is fine, since I'm mainly on Kbin for the message board feel and on Mastodon for the miceoblog experience.)

[โ€“] Mintyytea@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Are you talking about subscribing to a magazine? I do it on mobile by clicking the magazine I want, clicking the top left square button modal with the 3 lines, then scroll down until you see the magazine name to click Subscribe

[โ€“] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Question: is there a way to save posts or comments?

[โ€“] EthanolParty@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

At least on my instance, you can click the three dots under the post to open up some expanded options, then click the star to save the post.

On Jerboa, there should be a little bookmark icon under each post.

[โ€“] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

Yes of course. In the web app there's a little star icon you can click and on jebora theres a little badge next to the vote buttons

[โ€“] Mekboy_nutkrakka@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes you click the star to save post and comments and it's in the more button next to the reply button if you don't see it.

[โ€“] axzxc1236@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

go to /communities/listing_type/All/page/1 to find communities.

[โ€“] themadcodger@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Don't feed the trolls. Just block them and move on. If you find an entire instance has started hosting bad actors, you can block that instance too.

[โ€“] npastaSyn@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago
[โ€“] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you want Lemmy to be successful, contribute as much high quality content as possible so more people will be inclined to stay here. Don't lurk.

[โ€“] sparkplug49@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can somebody ELI5 the difference between kbin and lemmy. I think I understand lemmy being like mastadon. Who is hosting kbin?

Kbin is also like Mastadon. It's basically the same thing as lemmy, just with a slightly different user interface. (I personally like it better, which is why I'm here, lol.)

The main kbin instance, kbin.social, is hosted by a guy called @Ernest, who's also the main (only?) dev who created kbin. But there are other kbin instances hosted by totally unaffiliated people, too.

[โ€“] Mintyytea@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Set your settings early on so you can get notifications xD (click your username, then Settings)

The defaults are set to be very minimal, so I was wondering why I never knew if anyone had replied to me.

Almost none if these were set by default

[โ€“] syrinori@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Possibly the wrong place to ask but is anyone aware if there is a way to see a list of your favorites/upvotes in kbin?

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