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Helldivers 2 CEO: Well that's depressing (catata.fish)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by billygoat@catata.fish to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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cross-posted from: https://catata.fish/post/7302992

Well that's depressing

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[+] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 139 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 67 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Arrowhead kind of messed up by not just implementing the PSN requirement from the start, and avoiding this confusion. It’s not like Sony suddenly made this requirement, it has been there all along.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

They literally did do that. My account is old enough that linking it was already required when I started playing. It was off temporarily.

[–] Glass0448@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago

Bare minimum idea: have a sticky post on all the forums reminding people that PSN accounts will be required in 6 months. Maybe a little sticky note after you load up the game that goes away after you link.

Leaving it till now was kinda not the best possible choice.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To be fair, they're the ones who signed the deal. Hopefully this is something they can learn from for future games.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

They are pulling the reverse Hello Games. Sony's contract with Hello Games (No Man's Sky) forced them to ship an unfinished game, met with hundreds of thousands of bad reviews, but they turned it around by not only delivering what was originally promised, but continuously adding huge DLC level free updates to the game, effectively nulling the effects of their contract with Sony. Arrowhead Studios shipped an incredible game, but ignored Sony's contractual requirements to ride the wave of sales, and is now being hit with the effects after finally enforcing what they signed up for.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Please Sean PLEASE NO MORE UPDATES, WE FORGIVE YOU

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I just wish I could hide the reticle when the multitool is holstered. That’s all I want at this point lol

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I don't, give me more amazing updates. Infinite updates.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

How did they ignore it when it's both on the store page and the first thing you see ingame since day one? They didn't add that in later. It's always been there. It wasn't optional for a period of time on launch day, before the servers were overloaded. It was then temporarily made optional, and they said as much (though obviously not clearly enough for people to realize that).

They expected an active userbase of about 10k. They didn't know how popular this game was going to be.

More likely, they didn't know that PSN accounts are only available in select regions. They followed the stipulations on all fronts except selling the game in places that can't make accounts, and everything else is the result of the PSN account requirement being made optional while Sony rolled out more infrastructure to handle the player load.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Still want my money back from nsm lies.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did you buy it on PC? I know at the time, sony was offering refunds on the ps4, which is uncommon. I don't know about steam's policies at the time though. Probably similar to helldivers now, where if you've passed the play time limit you are automatically denied but can re-request a review for manual approval

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

No, I didn't buy this game because it looked like a boring wave shooter with meme buzzwords and was too expensive. 20$ game tops in my eyes.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And apparently they knew about the requirement, and ignored it.

ESH

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago

It was listed on the store page from day one. It was put in front of your face the first time you launched the game. It was only made optional temporarily due to the overloaded servers on launch day. This was said, though not clearly enough for people to realize before now that the PSN account being optional was only temporary, it seems.

My money's on Arrowhead not knowing that PSN accounts are only available in specific regions and countries. Otherwise, none of it makes sense. This was always going to happen if they knew and did it anyway, and why would they torpedo their dev studio with the refunds like that.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

They signed the contract

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The summer winds came blowing in from across the sea...

[–] poo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Haha one of my favorite endings ever, thank you

[–] Kelly@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

Well that exchange is fucking poetry

[–] supangle@lemmy.wtf 31 points 2 years ago

the hilarious thing is that he actually doesn't know it

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Is it even possible to boycott Sony? Or are they like some other entities: tentacles wrapped around so many things that we can’t avoid them?

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The only thing I've not been able to divest myself from Sony is HDMI. If I could buy a TV with a decent amount of DisplayPort and no HDMI, I'd be so happy. My level of distrust goes back to their rootkit on music CD scandal.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Seriously, fuck HDMI. I just recently learned they've blocked AMD's open source driver from being able to implement HDMI 2.1 meaning AMD GPUs are currently limited to 4K@60Hz over HDMI on Linux.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't get how HDMI got so popular. DP had much better features earlier on. And no licensing fees.

Iirc the main reason for HDMI was its copy protection and Sony BluRay players only having HDMI. I could be wrong though.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

Because HDMI predates DP. HDMI was initially just DVI-D with audio and encryption. That last part is what got the content producers to push the standard because piracy.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

DisplayPort still has much better features :)

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that was the end of major-publisher CDs for me. I’ve been very happy with only indie music for a very long time.

[–] Kelly@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Sony pictures is one of the "big 5" Hollywood studios (11% market share)
Sony music group the second largest music company in the world (22% market share)

Its usually easy to avoid using their hardware directly but they have a pretty big slice of media.

[–] CryptisMidnight@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

I dropped crunchyroll as soon as Sony bought them and i have watched and listened to plenty of Sony content with out giving them anything. Been that way since early 2000s.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There’s the problem. It’s fairly easy for me to avoid those slices since I don’t care for their movies or any of their artists. But some of their tech has become de facto standard, so that’s harder.

[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just do your best.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 2 years ago

That’s all anyone can do, really

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All game consoles and game companies are run by corporations. There are no ethical ones. If you really don't like all this bullshit they pull, all you can do is stop gaming

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You could only play games by indie developers. Or only buy games from GOG.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Lol rather play no games than only trash games

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can Sony implement PSN accounts in more countries? Seems like this would fix it lol.

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They won't just for this game

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 years ago

Ya, probably not. But it's a shame to see so many people enjoy this game and now not be able to enjoy it. And I haven't even played it, I've just been thinking about it and seeing these posts on Lemmy.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It wouldn't. Half the outrage is that a game you bought on steam to play on pc forces you to create and link a psn account in the first place

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago

Play a different game, Weej.