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You’re indoors in the sense that you’re protected from the weather and the elements, and the cave could even have some kind of covering or entrance area that could be considered a door or doorway. People have built homes in caves.

Is caving an outside, inside activity?

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[–] OkGo@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago

It’s neither, it’s an underground activity :)

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there usually a door at the entrance to a cave?

[–] Tiptopit@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

In Germany? Yes

Ever played the elder scrolls?

[–] Twinkletoes@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What room has a roof and ceiling but no walls…

A mush-room!^^

[–] henfredemars 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

You moss be kidding, that was leek at best.

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I say outdoors. Indoors has a vibe of being human made to me, and a low likelihood of encountering wildlife. So I guess walking around a mine is indoor cave exploration

[–] henfredemars 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many caves are modified to accommodate their visitors. This could be a small as leaving behind oxygen tanks or equipment, or as advanced as installing electrical wiring and ventilation. This was the case of several caves I visited as a tourist with no real exploration skills.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there are other ways to modify a cave

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like to know more about this picture!

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! That was an interesting read!

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago
[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that's a good question. I believe it's still outdoors, indoors has the meaning of "comfort from your own home" rather than meaning inside a closed off area. Knitting is an indoor activity, hiking is outdoors

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Lots of sports are played indoors that isn't inside someone's home.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I would consider a cave to be "outdoors" unless maybe somethings been done to it to make it into a dwelling. Since there is no door it's at least somewhat open to the elements, you would have to contend with various wildlife that may live there, the floor would be either dirt or bare rock, these are all things one would have to deal with while doing "outdoor activities"

[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm going to say outdoor.

The "door" part doesn't really have any significance. No one would say camping under the open sky is an indoor activity, even if there's a fence with a door around the campsite.

I think it makes more sense for the deciding factor be whether you're in a controlled or uncontrolled environment. And while part of the cave might be controlled if there's an artificial entryway or home, that's not what you're there to see.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe I'm gatekeeping, but isn't a fence door a gate?

[–] henfredemars 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve been in show caves in Bonaire that had some degree of climate control, mainly for humidity and to ensure sufficient oxygen for visitors for a comfortable experience and to accommodate large groups.

Certainly that’s the exception rather than the rule in my case.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Caves are outdoors because a bunker is indoors and the cave around it is outdoors.

[–] henfredemars 4 points 1 year ago

Just for the sake of argument and fun:

Aren’t we all outdoors because we are living in buildings that are themselves outside?

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with the door argument but would also add my two cents... If it's a cave dwelling it would be inside but you also wouldn't be cave exploring. You'd be in a 'civilized' area

[–] ElderReflections@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Civilized'? You've clearly not seen my house then, it's wall-to-wall beer cans, some empty, some not, some with piss in

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's why civilized was in quotes. You're "civilized"

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Depending on the development of the spelunking infrastructure entering the cave might entail going in then outdoors again.

Indoors is an enclosed building, outdoors is everything outside of that