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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Naturally.

There are two main ways in which people can try to further a political position they've taken - they can either argue for the position or they can attempt to discredit those who argue against it.

If the position they're trying to further is so illogical or immoral that they can't frame any arguments in its favor, then attempting to discredit its opponents is the only thing they have left.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They could... abandon their position

Who am I kidding, though.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 32 points 1 year ago

Huh, how about that? The pro-genocide side using terroristic tactics. Weird. /s

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I drove past some asshole flying an Israeli flag outside their house. I'm in Indiana and I'm one of the only Jews in this town, so I doubt whoever did it was Jewish and I'm sorry they didn't see me giving them the finger when I drove by.

Can we fucking not?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stopping shipments of weapons clearly isn't going to be enough. We need to start destroying their military posts

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is not a reasonable first step.

Biden has paused and threatened to stop weapons shipments, but those only ever included offensive weapons.

They have a defensive anti-rocket system that requires regular shipments from the US. Biden never threatened to cut those supplies off, nor has he threatened to cut off any of the other aid they receive.

Stopping all weapons shipments would change their behavior. Better thing to try instead.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He only blocked 500 and 2000 pound bombs specifically, too. They can buy all the planes, guns or smaller bombs they want for now.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not so sure. The purpose of the defensive weaponry is, well, defensive. Stopping civilian deaths.

With how things are now, I think it would only make things worse. Netanyahu isn't going to pull back if the US stops giving defensive aid. And when civilians inevitably die, he'll either shrug, or use it as further justification to continue.

In essence, it won't have any effect. I think the best thing to do would be supporting Netanyahu's opposition to launch a coup, with our support conditional on them withdrawing completely from Gaza and letting Palestinians form their own state.

Either way, there won't be any progress until Netanyahu is out.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel is a Nazi state that needs to be disbanded.

The flood gates are open. People are not afraid anymore. Doxxing a few people was possible. Doxxing half America is not.

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