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Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English, and who the fuck wants to talk to an older European. Every single French colony without exception is phasing out or has phased out the use of French as France was such an awful colonial power. Did you know that Eclair is pronounced aey-clare? This does nothing for me. I guess some people want to read Les Miserables in the original Foot Mold Language, just like random people enjoy reading Ovid or Cicero in Catholic script.. And just like Latin, fuck that everything has genders and complicated conjugation.

I swear, the French teachers in school were trying to impart the vibe that if we know the French language, French women would have sex with us.

I refuse to defend any facts that I asserted in this essay.

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English

this isn't even remotely correct lmao

Death to America

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for real. their accent is so thick they may as well be speaking french

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

euh du coup doo yu no wehr is teh bar? I wante a glaseuh of bir

[–] jizzong@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OP clearly never met a French person. Even if they can speak English, that doesn't mean they will do it just to conviniance a foreigner.

[–] HauntedBySpectacle@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just cause they know English doesn't mean they want to use it while you're in their country.

Learning a second language is a gateway to living anywhere that's not anglo-burn

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't visit France (unless you're a refugee from Burgerland)

[–] HauntedBySpectacle@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm a refugee from Burgerland

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BTW, do you get that brand of Anglo expat that doesn't learn the language after living their for years and talks to everyone like a kindergartner in English? Or is that just a global south thing?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

we get them here in hungary, which is not global south but not western europe either. i've always assumed anglo immigrants are just like this everywhere.

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[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually like going to france? I seem to be the only person. I also like speaking the language. It is a fun one, very melodic.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I do not understand why French is put on the same level as actually useful languages. We've got a continent and a half that speaks Spanish right next door, and >40 million Spanish speakers in the country. There's a billion people who speak mandarin. 400 million who speak Arabic (kinda). Hell there's more indigenous language speakers than French speakers here.

Actually I do understand (it's racism).

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

You can sing songs written by Sankara. sankara-bass

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Don't forget that ASL is the third most used language in the United States! No point in focusing exclusively on spoken languages, right?

In any case, I find it questionable to talk about languages in terms of "usefulness" like that, trying to measure "usefulness" based on an objective "number of speakers minus percentage who speak a language I already speak": there are plenty of reasons why a language can be personally useful to somebody, plenty of reasons to want to learn a language aside from how many new people one can talk to; and heck, learning one seemingly useless language can be great for building the skills and knowledge for taking on another language, or for becoming more flexible in using one's own first language.

That being said, you're not wrong to call the pedestal that French is put on compared to other languages a product of racism... Actually, I'd argue that a lot of foreign language education isn't even meant to get you proficient in that language, but rather more for the sake of, like, standardized school tests. Thus the languages that are put on the highest pedestal are just going to be the ones where the infrastructure already exists for getting butts in seats and tests on desks.

[–] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, viens t'en au Québec! On a de la poutine, de la bière, des manifestations comme en France, du hockey, et de la neige en crisse!

[–] quilter@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The beer is good. Demos are on another level.

But there are the laws against wearing hijabs and turbans. . . . and all the other racism.

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Counterpoints:

1: the instruction manual for my guillotine is in French. How am I supposed to figure out where to put a king's neck and where to place his body if I can't read le manuel d'utilisation??

2: Debout, les damnés de la terre

Debout, les forçats de la faim

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[–] kot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Learning a second language is a good thing

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

French is not a language, it's a contagious parasite.

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[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

French women would have sex with us.

That was a warning to stay away from the language.

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and who the fuck wants to talk to an older European.

I-was-saying

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

But only in Russian.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I want to talk to an older European"

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, I'm not even joking when I say this... Well, I don't have plans to learn French necessarily, but one of the big reasons why I want to build my Norwegian skills is for the sake of the older folks who don't speak or aren't comfortable with speaking English. Older folks are by all means a mixed bag — trust me — but I still just like being around and hearing from them generally, and I wish them well, I don't want them to feel lonely or forgotten.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Learning French gets you many points towards Canadian permanent residency

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would I want to be a northern redneck?

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

For affordability compared to the other provinces, and also better family welfare. Plus, it used to be easier to immigrate to compare to other provinces

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[–] waluigiblunts@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

English vocabulary is 50% French so you're basically speaking 50% French anyways owned

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

who the fuck wants to talk to an older European.

Me. I love French daddies.

get well soon

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

I swear, the French teachers in school were trying to impart the vibe that if we know the French language, French women would have sex with us.

stop already i can only be so unmotivated

[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English

Brother, I had to fucking pantomime to ask an 18 year old french guy where the bathroom is at a bar. You have no idea how bad it can be.

On the converse, most french people give English the linguistic respect it deserves which is just speaking french but making sure one word in three is english in the most rotten pronounciation you've ever heard.

w.r.t. former colonies it is a shame because i got to connect with a lot of arabic comrades once i got even a beginner's grasp of the language, which was easy because i speak another romance language. Yes i know how it sounds "boo hoo, why do i have to step out of my western chauvinistic bubble in order to engage with the arabic world"

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah, but that's not really a bad thing. I think learning a language is good, regardless of whether you actually have a use for it.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Mais ce simplifie l'etude d'espagnole thonk-cri

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Welp, I learned French before English and it makes it easier. Also, it helps with Spanish and some degree Russian.

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most people who speak French aren't French. The majority of Francophones are in Africa, but there's also millions in the Caribbean and the Levant. I still feel like it's useful for those places

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

From your lips to god's ear brother let-em-cook

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

The British, the French and the Germans are the best examples of Euroid Lib smugness. I hate them all

france-cool anglo-burn germany-cool

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